Carroll University Suspends Century-Old Fraternity 'Indefinitely'

Citing Beta Pi Epsilon's inability to find an adviser and a record of "disruptive" conduct, Carroll University informs alumni of 106-year-old fraternity that it has been suspended.

The inability to find a faculty adviser for the Beta Pi Epsilon fraternity was the last straw for

The 106-year-old fraternity has been suspended from the university “indefinitely,” according to a letter from the university to fraternity alumni. The fraternity missed two deadlines to obtain an adviser, the letter states.

“Unfortunately, in more recent years, current members of the fraternity have fallen short in their academic endeavors and their conduct record has frequently proven disruptive,” the letter states. “This has placed the fraternity in an untenable position. These issues have continued after several years of concerted efforts on the part of Beta Pi Epsilon alumni and university administrators to help correct the performance of current members.”

The letter states the university will work with the fraternity’s members to restart the fraternity with its key values — strong academics, community service, philanthropy and to be respected young men.

Beta Pi Epsilon had as of November 2011.

“It would be our sincere hope that Beta Pi Epsilon fraternity could be restarted with a new dedication to uphold the fraternity’s traditions and values,” the letter states.

The fraternity’s Facebook page has been filled with comments supporting the Beta Pi Epsilon members since they were informed about the suspension. Comments range from thanking the fraternity for its involvement in picking up trash in the community to saying the fraternity members are “a great bunch of young men.”

The fraternity responded to the comments of support on its Facebook page:

“The support everyone is giving is amazing! Thank you so much for everything that you're doing! WE LOVE YOU ALL!”

Patch attempted to contact the fraternity members via its Facebook page, but as of late Wednesday has not received any replies.

Meanwhile, a local blogger from Carroll University shared her support for the fraternity. The blogger, Stacy Jantz, wrote how Greek life at the university affected her four years at Carroll:

As a freshman at Carroll, Beta Pi Epsilon was the first Greek organization that I encountered. They are an extremely outgoing group of men who gave me such a positive outlook on Greek life, and this impression never faded. Every campus or Greek life event that has Betas in attendance is bound to be successful.

CU student April 26, 2012 at 07:44 PM
I understand the whole idea of the frats and such at Carroll, but at this point all I have to say is who really cares? Life goes on. Being apart of a frat is not the only thing in life and just because Carroll suspended them, doesn't mean that the frat cannot exist without being apart of CU. Not to mention, finals are coming up wouldn't everyone's time be better spent preparing for finals?
Carl Johnson April 26, 2012 at 07:45 PM
I know they don't sexually assault women I was going toward the stupidity that I've been seeing in responses on this page
Ray April 26, 2012 at 07:54 PM
Mr. Jones - Yes, it is true the Carroll Student Orgs Administrator is dating the founder of the Pi Lams at Carroll. It is now known that she promised them a house if they came to Carroll. The only house zoned and legal for fraternal living in Waukesha is the house in which the Betas currently reside - they do not own it, they pay rent to a private landlord. Add that up. If that's not a conflict of interest I don't know what is.
War Machine April 26, 2012 at 08:01 PM
My goodness, did you just use Carroll's student paper as a source to support a point that portrays Carroll in the right and the Betas in the wrong? Did you really do that? In light of the control issues going on, I'm sure that's left to be an unbiased source. I'm sure they're on a long leash in what they report. I read that article, and what I gained from it was a pattern of baseless allegations that the accused have gone out of their way to address, only to have the school ride the wave of their allegation to justify the real goal they had. It's beyond easy to make a statement such as this, and have it do its damage, even when beyond true. I'm confused though as why the anti-Beta posters would keep coming back to something that doesn't seem to have merit, but also something that even if it were, would indicate criminal behavior in anyone who covered it up. The response to the article you cited is interesting, and the writers of it skipped the school paper and even the Waukesha paper, and went for the big one. Interesting to look back and see a pattern that almost screams as if it was taken out of some "Managing a College" manual. http://thedigitalnp.com/2003/01/15/letter-editor-beta-pi-epsilon-alumni-boards-official-response-house-closing/
War Machine April 26, 2012 at 08:08 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd bet that the fact that there was or is an ongoing romantic relationship was not known by the administration. If they knew of it and went ahead and allowed their plan to go ahead, then they're more foolish than previously believed. If it was hidden from them or not disclosed, the handling of it could be very interesting.
Think About It April 26, 2012 at 08:30 PM
You're getting warmer! It is a relative of a Chi Omega Alumni who owns the house. Renting 101: The status of a student organization has no impact on a lease. The University has no sway over an independent landlord.
Ray April 26, 2012 at 08:33 PM
@Justin Jasniewski. Talk about stupidity - if the Betas are not recognized as a fraternity by Carroll, then they cannot legally live there. It is illegal in Waukesha for more than a few men or women who are not related to live together. So yes. The school has more than a say - they control who lives there.
Justin Jasniewski April 26, 2012 at 08:55 PM
That law is for single family residences. The TKE house is zoned as an apartment complex, meaning any reasonable number of people may live there without penalty. If the school really had sway in who could live there, something tells me they would have exercised that already.
Ray April 26, 2012 at 08:56 PM
@Think About It. It doesn't matter - The school's agenda is for the Betas to move out and the Pi Lams to move in. It may or may not be that the Betas can live their regardless of their status with CU, but "Think About It": If the Betas refuse to move, the school is never going to recognize them as an org. Then they will just be some rogue public fraternity. Obviously the Betas want to be recognized by the University and remain involved in campus activities. The only way for that to happen is if they move and let the Student Orgs Administrator's boyfriend's frat move in - unless people take action and expose the deceitful smoke and mirrors tactics the Administration is using. It breaks my heart that people who are supposed to work towards helping "enrich the life of the University and enhance the success" of students have such a selfish and impassioned agenda.
Ray April 26, 2012 at 09:04 PM
I'm not so sure about this - My understanding is that it is zoned as fraternal living, not as an apartment complex or single family residence. The zoning is grandfathered in. I'm saying that the school has the power over who lives there by having the absolute power over the charter of the fraternity. Read my reply to "Think About It" below. The fraternity wants to stay a part of CarrollU - if Carroll wants them to move out, they either have to move out or decide the house is more important - regardless of whether or not they are a recognized greek org.
Greek Senior April 26, 2012 at 09:10 PM
As a senior Greek Life member, I can not even express how upset I am over how the Beta's have been treated. Greek Life at Carroll has given me the best 4 years of my life, and I stand by Beta, as do so many other Greeks on campus. We have to stand by each other because our school certainly doesn't. Beta has always shown support for my sorority and all the other Greek orgs on campus, the men of Beta deserve the support they are not getting from Student Org's Office. Greek Life is about being bigger than ourselves, giving back and becoming a family. Over the past 4 years I have gotten to know so many wonderful Greek's in all of the orgs, not just my own. People need to stop looking at the past as fuel for their fire, and look to the future and realize that Beta (regardless if the claims are true or not) is growing and they are better than ever. All of Greek Life has the negative stigma's attached to it, so why does even jump at the bit to point to Beta, when ALL of the Greek Orgs are guilty of some of the stereotypes. I'll be the first one to admit we are not perfect, but neither is any other org on campus.Us Greek have to work against CENTURIES of allegations, stereotypes and stigma's that only help to shoot us when we are down.
War Machine April 26, 2012 at 09:10 PM
My guess is that they don't, which is why anyone who covets being in that house should take note that if the Betas are gone, it's three straight frats they've pushed out of that house. This is about control, and Carroll can't control that house, no matter how they try. Their lust for control then leads them to eliminate the fraternity itself.
Carl Johnson April 26, 2012 at 09:16 PM
My guess is that ray is a complete tard
Carl Johnson April 26, 2012 at 09:18 PM
dartmouth, your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries
Ray April 26, 2012 at 09:28 PM
Yes, let's, Mr. Harry Carry. I would hardly call my agenda selfish, although I do agree that I feel very strongly about what's going on. My agenda is simple: For this Christian University to be transparent and unbiased - especially in its dealings with students who pay $30k a year to attend. Is that too much to ask? Is that a negative viewpoint? Also I'm really quite surprised you are asking for my identity when you yourself are "hiding" behind your computer. You can rest assured though, that if I knew your identity it wouldn't make any difference in my viewpoint. Is there something I should be hiding from? I am not a student - I am an alumni who attended Carroll, had many friends in Greek orgs and on the sports teams and graduated in 4 years with a 3.5. I had a great experience at Carroll and made a lot of lifelong friends.
Carl Johnson April 26, 2012 at 09:28 PM
It's a conspiracy Ray, A CONSPIRACY!!!!!
Dan April 26, 2012 at 09:37 PM
Interesting how Carroll student and Anon Greek have silenced themselves after someone pointed out that they are probably Pi Lamb advisor and faculty...
BOX April 26, 2012 at 10:59 PM
So I was a football player and those who go to Carroll know the history between the frat and the team.....the fact that there are allegations against beta for rape is ridiculous.... I think all you haters against this frat should quit sniffing your own farts and get a life...and another thing for anyone saying negative comments....have you ever made a poor decision in your day? Probably -BOX
JuJuBee April 26, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Honestly thank you all for making assumptions of Beta's not finishing school in 4 years like your smart ass. Have you ever taken into consideration that they may have to drop out of school because of financial issues, or family issues. Next time before you start saying my brothers and myself take a few extra years to finish school you better think outside the box and realize other factors before you speak, it makes you look like an idiot. By the way I laugh at allegations of rape I have been at Carroll for 3 years and I have never seen any such activity, these accusations need to stop.
Anonymous April 27, 2012 at 12:09 AM
Who takes an ACT? I never did and look at me now successful more so then you. Kudos to me!
John D April 27, 2012 at 01:07 AM
Wow...just read this and glanced through the comments. "Carroll Student" you obviously hold a grudge of some sort and have way too much time on your hands. I graduated in 2006 and never had a problem with the betas. Its kinda funny how tough people get behind a screen name making postings on a comment section of an article.
Janz April 27, 2012 at 02:05 AM
Anon Greek it seems to me you are a lone ranger. Please stop posting on here with a lack of intelligence, if you would like to chat this nonsense I would be more than happy to meet with you. Im quite interested what you would say to me in person. Sincerely, Zach Janczak
Mary Anne April 27, 2012 at 02:46 AM
Oh yeah bc all the money all of the other greeks raie for there Philanthropy isnt good enough.
The Harry Carry April 27, 2012 at 02:58 AM
aint nobody really name harry carry except The Harry Carry
The Harry Carry April 27, 2012 at 02:59 AM
Mary Anne not to be rude but where did that fit into the conversation?
The Harry Carry April 27, 2012 at 03:00 AM
I don't think Carol Johnson knows what Slander actually means... you can't slander someones screen name can you?
Anon Greek April 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM
look, I know you guys don't like me but I'm really trying to get christine to have my babies and i don't have much going for me so if you could just give me the satisfaction of being right with no facts that would be great. My boys need a house and I'm really trying to look out for them. Pi lams for life!!
Joe May 03, 2012 at 01:03 AM
First of all, the beta guys do not have a good reputation on campus. That being said, it's ridiculous that your daughter would put such an emphasis on which fraternities are represented at the school of her choice, let alone that her father would allow her to make a decision based on that. Carroll is a very respectable school that is thriving in many ways. Although many people considered the "stupid wall stunt," inappropriate, at least it was a fraternity working toward their philanthropy and being active on campus, which beta has been lacking, being a factor in their suspension. You do not have the right to judge the entire institution based on their limited greek organizations, as it is a very minute attribute of the school. You seriously need to reconsider your values and priorities when it comes to higher education and choosing a school.
FUcarroll December 12, 2012 at 01:43 AM
Joe b April 04, 2013 at 03:40 AM
Phi theta pi!


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