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Waukesha Police Shoot Man Who Charged at Officers

44-year-old man hospitalized with unknown injuries after confronting police in Sunday morning incident.

A 44-year-old man is in critical condition after being shot by Waukesha police early Sunday morning after charging at officers in the 500 block of Spring Crest Circle, authorities said.

According to police:

The incident began at 1:48 a.m. when Waukesha police officers and county sheriff's deputies, including the K-9 unit, responded to a call of a possible suicidal subject.

The elderly couple who called police said the 44-year-old had refused voluntary mental health assistance earlier in the day and had talked about jumping off a bridge. The couple were not his parents, call log states.

The couple, who were in the home with the man when police arrived, told officers that he had armed himself with knives and that he had threatened to “cut throats.” 

"He is really ranting," the elderly woman told dispatchers, according to the call log.

The man called the Waukesha Police Department Dispatch Center and said he was holding a male hostage and that he was armed with two knives. The female caller was able to exit the residence.

The man then exited the home with two knives and charged at officers and disregarded their commands to drop the knives.

Poilce said officers were forced to shoot "in defense of their lives." The police department's call log states the man had multiple gunshot wounds and was conscious, alert and breathing after the shooting.

The man was taken to Froedtert Hospital by Flight for Life. He was in critical condition but expected to survive, police said.

No one else was injured in the incident.

Three city of Waukesha police officers and two sheriff's deputies who were involved in the shooting have been placed on administrative leave pending an investigation, which is routine in such shootings.

The officers involved from Waukesha are:

  • A 27-year-old officer in his fifth year on the department
  • A 27-year-old officer in his first year on the department
  • A 24-year-old officer in her first year on the department

The Waukesha County deputies have 13 and 12 years of experience. 

Waukesha County District Attorney Brad Schimel was on the scene Sunday, and his office is investigating the shooting.

Gary Bach April 22, 2013 at 03:15 AM
Couch coaches. If you have never been in this position, you have no idea what is going through the minds of the knife guy as well as the officers. Everything happen so fast. Yes training helps, but only to a certain point. I know only what I read, and base on that information I will/would not second guess the officers.
Chaos78 April 22, 2013 at 05:00 AM
I respect the men and women of the Waukesha Police Department. They do a great job. I think that what has happened in the past week... that maybe things just went a little fubar. If "he" was charging them holding a pair of pistols I agree... shots should be fired. He was running at them with a pair of knives. I think the tazer should of been the non violent weapon to choose. Unless he really closed the gap to fast to have any options. The story is a little vague at to what point the shots where fired.
Mr Lundt April 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM
What is really humorous is that most of the Monday morning quarterbacking is being based on an article in the Patch. Not exactly a source known for detail and the full story. In this case they gave what appears to be a reasonable high level overview and we have wannabe cops telling real cops how to do their job. Unbelievable but sadly consistent for too many.
Louise April 22, 2013 at 01:19 PM
How about one shot to the leg, that would have stopped him if they had to shoot. Do we not belive in doing the least harm anymore?
Mr Lundt April 22, 2013 at 01:32 PM
Gee Louise why not just shoot the knife out of his hands while you are writing movie scripts. The Lone Ranger did it all the time.
Jon April 22, 2013 at 02:08 PM
What if that one shot hits the guy guy in the Femoral Artery? High propensity to bleed out. Are police supposed to train to shoot the leg but not the artery?
Louise April 22, 2013 at 02:57 PM
You're missing the point. Leg, arm, whatever. My point is that there had to have been a way to stop him with a shot if necessary a way that was as minimally harmful as possible. And yes, police should be taught how to do that. Again, do we not care about doing the least harm?
Mr Lundt April 22, 2013 at 03:01 PM
You make the unfounded assumption that being shot in the arm or leg stops a bad guy with a weapon.
the 'sha guy April 22, 2013 at 03:04 PM
Louise obviously is clueless. I doubt she has ever shot a firearm, much less at a charging man with knives. The police are trained to shoot at center mass and stop the threat. A shot to the leg is not going to stop a guy 15' away charging at you and stabbing you. They did the right thing and our thoughts should be with the officers involved in the shooting. Nobody wants to use this type of force, but because of their chosen profession, sometimes it is necessary.
Louise April 22, 2013 at 03:16 PM
And the question of was it necessary is exactly what I'm getting at. Just because it occurred doesn't mean it was. Nice red herring 'sha guy, but not having ever shot a fire arm (which I have) doesn't make me unqualified to ask a question about a public servant's actions. Also me asking the question or even saying that I feel they could have acted differently isn't an indictment or personal attack. I realize their job is difficult. Anyone who is employed by the public and charged with protecting the public had better get used to some public scrutiny. If they can't then they are in the wrong profession.
Mr Lundt April 22, 2013 at 03:32 PM
All shootings are and SHOULD be investigated. There is nothing so far that indicated there was anything out of line. However, it is reasonable to investigate---which is SOP. There has never been a policy to do the least damage to the bad guy.( or the most possible damage) It is the innocents that are the concern...as it should be. Keep in mind Louise---the police had no way to know that the only weapon was a knife.
gg April 22, 2013 at 04:24 PM
WHY IS IT WISCONSIN UNLIKE OTHER STATES DOES NOT HAVE JUDGES FOR THE MENTALLY-ILL?! The DAs and judges here do not understand that if a person is mentally ill they are given meds and GUESS what, DAs and judgies, they are no longer mentally ill. Waukesha court system is full of ignorameses. Full of them. I know this first hand.
Me April 22, 2013 at 05:55 PM
Did the police know what he had under his clothing as he charged them? Did they know that he was not otherwise 'armed'? Our fuzzy little cocoon has been ripped to shreds, over and over again. Life as we knew it in the good ol U S of A is gone.. Children of today practice 'lock-downs' along with tornado drills. We have to go through screenings at airports, as if we are all suspect. We have to have 'carry-ins' scrutinized at sporting events. And, many of us subscribe to Twitter, not for the usual narcissistic reasons, but for public safety alerts. If police officers who are being charged at with visible weapons, I can't blame them for wondering, in a split second, what other 'arms' a deranged man may on him. It's a whole different world. Buckle up.
Who Dat Nation April 22, 2013 at 06:28 PM
The officers knew on the way there that the guy was mentally ill and had the knives that's why I wrote what I wrote don't you think they wouldve prepared themselves in route to the house. No and that's the problem they got there and evrything blew up so fast that they reacted which in a normal case ok but they knew before hand what they were entering so they should have been better prepared
Louise April 22, 2013 at 06:53 PM
He wasn't a bad guy, he was a very ill man with knives. He was outnumbered by presumably mentally sound trained officers with guns. They really had to shoot him multiple times to stop him? Maybe. Maybe not. I'm not willing to assume either way and neither should anyone else. Police uniforms are not angel wings.
the 'sha guy April 22, 2013 at 07:31 PM
If someone is charging at you with knives, you stop the threat. Could one shot have stopped him? Maybe, but what are they supposed to do in a matter of .5 -1.5 seconds? Shoot and then survey the situation, ask him if he has been stopped, then proceed to shoot again if he answers "no?" To answer your question, yes, apparently multiple shots were necessary as that is what stopped the threat and thankfully no officers were stabbed or killed during this confrontation.
Mr Lundt April 22, 2013 at 09:15 PM
They knew he had knives. They had NO WAY of knowing what other weapons he may have had. They don't have to be better prepared when its an emergency. They don't make stupid assumptions like the caller knew everything possible about the assailant.
Remo Williams April 22, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Your post is ridiculous. How hard is it to shoot him in the hand or arm? Try almost impossible. Two o'clock in the morning, in the dark, and a deranged man is screaming and running at you with two knives at full speed, about to plunge them into you. If you think you could manage anything but center mass shots at that point you are kidding yourself, and have been watching too much television. Tazers are not 100 percent, and when faced with deadly force an officer has to respond with deadly force. Be honest about it, if someone was running at you about to kill you, would you want to defend yourself with something that *might* work, or would you want to save your own life. I love how everyone wants to fire police officers for using force, when it was both justified and necessary. Officers are trained to fire until the threat is averted, so how can you judge that only one or two shots are neccessary? You were not there. Have a deranged man run at your best friend with a knife in an attempt to kill them, and see how many times you would fire to stop them.
@-;-'---- Rose April 23, 2013 at 03:24 AM
Geez Louise...give it up. The guys have got you cornered.
Eoj suomynona April 23, 2013 at 04:38 AM
All cops are bastards, no honor for dead pigs
Eoj suomynona April 23, 2013 at 04:41 AM
Shoot first ask questions later. Is that the police force you really want. Fuck the police.
CJ April 23, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Our law enforcement has NO IDEA what mental illness is ... happening all to often -- did you not read that I deal with it ... They deal with this UNETHICALLY, I again don't wish it upon my worst enemy let alone any person on here posting ... I have lost my mother to mental illness and my sibling to mental illness ... Let alone I am a GUARDIAN to my niece for my families misfortune -- Mind you I am 10 years younger than my sister and my niece is within that age of me ... Start thinking before you talk ... Do you know someone with a mental illness ?!? There are specifics in dealing with these types of people -- and I will tell you HOW our law enforcement has talked with these people only has allotted more of a reaction from these individuals -- such as then paranoia ... I have been a witness first hand on NUMEROUS occassions -- they are like wild erps out there... Needless to say some of those on our police force I recall making fun of disabled highschooler's in high school I have a hard time trusting these individuals when I see them in a suit... I don't care how they are or who they are in a blue suit, sad that that's what some of them did those years. The psychologist that worked in The Bronx giving the presentation ... Majority of our officers would in no way shape or fashion deal with that place ... This gentlemen was floored to see not ONE law enforcement PROFESSIONAL showed; training was at Wildwood Lodge by Machine Shed.
CJ April 23, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Our law enforcement has NO IDEA what mental illness is ... happening all to often -- did you not read that I deal with it ... They deal with this UNETHICALLY, I again don't wish it upon my worst enemy let alone any person on here posting ... I have lost my mother to mental illness and my sibling to mental illness ... Let alone I am a GUARDIAN to my niece for my families misfortune -- Mind you I am 10 years younger than my sister and my niece is within that age of me ... Start thinking before you talk ... Do you know someone with a mental illness ?!? There are specifics in dealing with these types of people -- and I will tell you HOW our law enforcement has talked with these people only has allotted more of a reaction from these individuals -- such as then paranoia ... I have been a witness first hand on NUMEROUS occassions -- they are like wild erps out there... Needless to say some of those on our police force I recall making fun of disabled highschooler's in high school I have a hard time trusting these individuals when I see them in a suit... I don't care how they are or who they are in a blue suit, sad that that's what some of them did those years. The psychologist that worked in The Bronx giving the presentation ... Majority of our officers would in no way shape or fashion deal with that place ... This gentlemen was floored to see not ONE law enforcement PROFESSIONAL showed; training was at Wildwood Lodge by Machine Shed.
CJ April 23, 2013 at 11:15 AM
I'm sorry that a beer or a bar off duty is the place to be for our officers ... guess what if I don't have a certain amount of continuing education -- Wisconsin doesn't allow me to teach their children. If I don't have a numerous amount of hours I am unable to work in homes for troubled youth -- dealing with young men and young women, 'These programs are designed to meet the needs of vulnerable populations: troubled girls/boys and young women/men, families in crisis, and children of incarcerated parents.' Simply saying and NOT complaining, these youth are PLENTY capable of doing some damage and have done some damage but they are not or have not been charged as adults, they are minors ... If I brought ANYTHING drawn or threatening to some/most I'd have my rear handed. When these people have a 'feeling' of threat they break under pressure -- when you see that many with drawn guns you don't know what he was thinking either -- HENSE why I argue some training -- maybe law enforcement would be wise to have a social worker in the department?!? Someone classified and trained PROFESSIONALLY to deal with these people
CJ April 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Like I said -- I have chosen my field, and I have chosen to be a guardian -- But my niece didn't chose to lose her family and nor did I -- I don't think my sibling nor mother chose to be mentally ill either ... Choosing your profession involves work outside of work majority of the time. ;)
Laurie Czerwinski April 23, 2013 at 02:31 PM
You forgot about..the hostage...so did Louise ...the hostage..get the hostage out....I am sorry, nut just because he or she has a mental illness, he or she cannot kill an innocent hostage..nope, Sorry
gg April 23, 2013 at 02:48 PM
There are millions of people who have a mental-illness and they have it corrected, under control with meds, which makes them, NOT mentally-ill. Wisconsin law enforcement doesn't even bother studying this or helping these people. Instead they are looked down at as being "BAD". This makes me sick, pure unadulterated ignorance on their part.
fromjanesville2waukesha April 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM
We have a large police budget in this city. Perhaps we could arm our officers with body mounted cameras. Many cities have these cameras and require officers to activate them when police will likely encounter the public. But...we know how the Mark Schroeder beating videos were deleted in "Bad Faith." The man threatened suicide and we shot him. What is our goal here? I wish I could have gotten better pics of the drug raid on Caroline St. across from Casa Del Rio a few weeks ago. These guys with machine guns had a backdrop of Main St. with tens of onlooking citizens. It was around 6pm on a sunny warm day. Let's stop the police initiated violence. No more military operations in Waukesha! Be forewarned, a mistake is inevitable...and it will be detrimental to our community.
CJ April 24, 2013 at 12:27 PM
Summed up nicely ... now understandable that there are rights and laws that go along with it ... but there IS an automatic up to 72 hour hold for anyone threatening to harm themselves OR others ... And if he threatened earlier in the day as I have heard; then there was no question he was to be taken in for a detention hold at a mental health unit and not at the police station in cuffs. Now it is automatic that generally they will cuff to take in for a hold/evaluation, but this is a slim chance to none around here.
fromjanesville2waukesha April 25, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Fortunately, the shooters will be cleared of any wrongdoing by the "officers'" closest friends...other "officers."

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