2 Waukesha Cops Receiving Valor Award

John Burgess December 1, 2012 at 10:18 pm

Lets see you try to be accurate while be shot at and trying to get a victim to safety. Unless you were there or have been ever under fire. You can kindly take your opinion and shove it.

Katherine Wallman-Hidek December 1, 2012 at 11:38 pm

Thank you, Officers, for putting yourselves on the line. I hope that someone else would deem it their duty to protect me 'in the line of duty' if I should be a victim of someone else's very bad judgment. And oh, by the way, bullets in a real situation are not anything like a video game. The good outcome here is that everyone is alive, and unhurt. May God protect those who answer 'the call'.

Jaime Lannister December 2, 2012 at 01:46 am

Me? I'm an office worker with no tactical training whatsoever, although I'm sure I could miss the target just as well as anyone. Not with a shotgun though. Maybe she should have brought the shotgun? Ya can't miss 26 times in a row with a shotgun no matter what's going on...

Sarah Millard (Editor) December 2, 2012 at 04:22 pm

I was trying to reply to Jamie's comment but accidentally deleted it. Jamie, where does it say the police officers had a shot gun? They didn't - the suspect did. The officers had handguns and were shooting while retreating and protecting the woman who was being threatened.

Jaime Lannister December 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm

Sara, If you hadn't deleted what I had to say you'd be able to see that I never said the police used a shotgun (although every department does own them). What I said was if they would have used a shotgun they would not have missed the guy who they were shooting at 26 times in a row. I think your confusion is based upon a general misunderstanding of how firearms work. If your article is correct and a "bullet" came within inches of the officer, then the suspect did NOT have a shotgun and the "long gun" described in the article had to be a rifle of some sort. Shotguns don't shoot bullets, they shoot BB's, or (rarely) slugs. It is far easier to hit something with a shotgun due to the way the BB's spread out into a broad pattern when the shotgun is fired.
You shouldn't be so quick to jump on that delete button either accidentally or on purpose. As a journalist you can't very well expect that the future will preserve your 1st amendment right to freedom of the press when you're so quick to censor anyone else trying to exercise their own 1st amendment right to free speech. Not to say that it wasn't an accident, which it very well may have been, but I have seen you delete peoples comments here a number of times for some pretty questionable reasons. Before getting rid of stuff you don't like, try to remember that the first amendment is the only reason that you exist here.

Jaime Lannister December 2, 2012 at 10:28 pm

While I do understand the city departments right to give awards to their officers for any reason they see fit, in law enforcement circles shooting that many times (in a residential area no less) is generally frowned upon. The goal for police is usually to shoot as little and as precisely as possible, so I certainly hope that behind the scenes the award comes with a referral for some additional training in marksmanship.

Robert Jones December 2, 2012 at 11:43 pm

Jamie, you obvioulsy have some seriously misplaced ideas on reality. As a office worker, have you ever touched a gun? If you have not then you have no place judging others actions. While I was in the military we used what we called "Cover fire" Which for civillian sheep like you means you shoot toward the enemy to keep him behind cover thus allowing you to move yourself, your team, and victims to safety.
I assume that you are just on a high pedastal because in your small miinded view of the world you could have handled the situation better. I hope you judge them just as fast if your are the victim that they are trying to get to safety. Better yet don't call if you have a situation and use your expertise to resolve it.

Jaime Lannister December 3, 2012 at 12:04 am

Well I don't own any guns, but I can't say I can ever remember hearing a story of so many shots being fired in a residential neighborhood without anyone being hit. I do have quite a few friends who are in law enforcement-- not that it makes me an expert by any means. So tell me Robert, in your infinite wisdom is blanketing an area with suppressive fire a common tactic in law enforcement? Yes I know the military does it all the time... Does civilian law enforcement have the same tolerance for collateral damage and civilian casualties as the military? I might add that there are dozens of homes, apartments and a daycare in the immediate area surrounding this "covering fire" incident that you so knowledgeably speak of.

Raemond December 24, 2012 at 10:34 pm

Target specific cover fire is a trained technique in law enforcement and this specific department Jamie. You don't know unless you were there so kindly save your poor judgements. These officers are warriors and heros and they deserve much more than a medal to honor their bravery.