How many voters do not have a state issued ID?
Voter fraud without proving who you are is also impossible to track. In the past I could vote for a family member or anyone I knew that was resisted but does not live or will not vote in said election. I know their name and address, bingo vote.

Also, do you know of a good place to get any ribs or BBQ in Milwaukee?

Boy Bill you need to get your facts correct.
Did you know that in those states that passed Voter ID the (disenfrancied voters actually came out to vote in higher numbers? You want proof How about you giving us proof that there are people eligible to vote that doesn't have some sort of ID?
2. Since getting a ID is free and the Sen would be more than happy to provide transportation to get a FREE ID what's your beef? Do you complain if a cop stops you and asks for a driver's license? Do you complain if you go to PICK and save and buy alcohol and they ask for your ID? I don't get it you people on the left are complaining about a function that every American citizen should be proud to vote and would be more than willing to provide that ID

Supplied with a name and an address on the voter rolls, up until this law was passed, anyone could vote, and yet the fraud would be virtually impossible to prove. This will prevent the buses that used to bring up people from Illinois to vote from continuing, using the names of people signed up by ACORN types. I bet you never knew Democrats were so devious. Again impossible to prove fraud cuz these people had a name and an address.

Bescher, you tell me I need to get my facts straight, then you don't mention a single fact I got wrong. Do you really believe that Voter ID laws increase participation? You don't think there might be some other factors? You ask for proof that there are eligible voters without ID? Why do you think Wisconsin is spending millions to set up ID stations at DMV offices? Try this article:
http://www.866ourvote.org/state/news?id=0226
The fact is that there is a constant churn of voters lacking ID because of new students, elderly with expired licenses and urban dwellers that don't drive.
If you had actually read my posts you would see I don't have a beef with ID. My beef is with Republicans that lie about why they want the law.

Keith,
The kind of voter fraud that these laws supposedly address are very easy to detect. Responsible poll workers scrub lists regularly for changes such as deaths or new residents. If someone tries to use another's ID it gets detected as soon as the real person shows up to vote. It would take a very large effort at multiple polls sites to actually steal an election in this manner. That kind of effort would certainly be spotted. A bag of absentee ballots, OTOH, can be intercepted and changed and it would be very hard to detect.

Your paranoia about ACORN is a FOX-induced delusion. ACORN was targeted by Republicans for the same reason they passed Voter ID laws - to suppress Democratic votes.

How would poll workers have the authority to 'scrub' voter rolls? Don't you recall the outrage in 2008 when the voter rolls were scrubbed to remove dead people and felons? I can't imagine the reaction should a 'poll worker' try to remove anyone from the voter list.

"In Milwaukee, Marquette University's student newspaper reports that of 1,000 students surveyed, 174 admitted exploiting Wisconsin's permissive registration procedures to vote at least twice, 121 voting in their home state and in Wisconsin, 44 voting twice in Wisconsin, 26 voting three times, 13 voting four or more times."

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2000-11-19/news/0011170856_1_voting-rolls-voting-age-election-day

Hey Bill,
I saw possible vote fraud in 2004 when my son registered to vote with a group at Miller Park. This same group (related to ACORN) called the morning of the election to see if my son was going to vote. They have his name and address, if he says he won't have time, what stops them from using his vote. And fraud like this is impossible to prove. That is why we need Photo ID.

Cowdung, you ask how voter rolls could be scrubbed and then you talk about when they were scrubbed? What was the question there?
As for your example of Marquette students - that was an example of students lying. See link:http://www.bradblog.com/Docs/PoliticsofVoterFraudFinal.pdf
Money quote:"The Milwaukee County District Attorney said he had no evidence of any student voting more than once."

Keith,
You are grasping at straws. You worry hypothetically that some nefarious group will find out about your son and send someone to vote in his place. Well that would be one vote. I don't recall any elections that have come down to 1 vote lately, can you? So in order for such fraud to reliably work this sinister group would have to do this hundreds or thousands of times. Now what are the odds that someone will change their mind and go vote. They arrive at the polling place and discover the fraud. It hits the media and the rest of the fraud is uncovered. Trying to commit this kind of fraud on any sort of large scale will almost certainly be detected. That is why it doesn't happen. If you want to get the most fraud for your buck then you should bribe a court clerk or someone else in charge of the ballots. Finally, do you feel safer about your son's vote now that Voter ID laws are here? So tell me what's to stop that evil organization from taking your son's name and address and making a fake ID to let them vote?

Bill:

The point I was trying to make was that 'responsible poll workers' shouldn't be the ones doing the scrubbing. That's a job for the elections board...

Bill:

Yes, Keith's comment indicates that one vote could have been cast fraudulently, but do you really believe that the group only made one phone call that day to see if the person they registered was actually going to vote that day?

St.. How about a little history. 2000... more votes cast in milwuakee that registered voters... 2004... a number documented instances of voter fraud reported by MPD (oh yeah that task force was banned by Dems from observing polls in 2008).

You imply that the Reps didnt go very far... you're right. The Dems refused to even look at closing some holes in the process, The disenfranchisement is nonsense... if thre was even one case... it would be all over the news and you know it.

Lets take it to the next leve and apply some technology so that the same person can't vote absentee and at the polls? How loud would the howels be about "shame" be then?!?

Agree!!!

"Take your cue from Senator Zipperer"

You mean make an empty promise to forward people's phone calls?

Which facts are those, Yolanda? The fact that no election has been called into question in the last 100 years due to imposters voting? The fact that there are really are people that have a right to vote but don't have the ID needed by the new law?
You mention other states passing these laws. Do these other states all have strong Republicans majorities? What a coincidence. I lived in Georgia when they passed Voter ID. The law was thrown out in the courts three times because of it's blatant violation of civil rights. Even though not a single case of voter fraud could be found in Georgia, the Republicans persevered - tweaking the law the bare minimum they thought would make it legal. At the same time they made absentee balloting much easier - which means it's much easier to abuse.
I actually think showing an ID at the polls is a good idea. But then I also think absentee ballots should be banned. Unlike Republican politicians I actually want to protect the integrity of voting.

Apparently if you mention a red herring like ACORN multiple times, does it make your talking point more or less valid?

Cashing a check, buying alcohol, and buying cigarettes, are all privileges. Voting is a right spelled out in the Constitution.

How would you get an ID if you were a 95-year-old who wasn't born in a hospital and never received a birth certificate?

What about a foster child who has never had contact with his/her birth parents?

A homeless person with no address to list on the forms who lives in a "cash economy" - no checks, no credit cards, no bank accounts?

I could go on and on with examples - and these people really do exist, and in large numbers.

But congratulations on eradicating all 10 or so cases of voter fraud from the past decade.