"The crowd erupted with cheers and applause after that statement."

Yep, just as expected, the crowd reveled in the hypocrisy!

Further proof that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

When Clinton was the Prez Americans had jobs and made good money on their 401k's.

@ReCall! -

How did Clinton's signature piece of legislation, NAFTA, work out for you? In fact, didn't that lead to one of the biggest exoduses of union jobs in our nation's history? Yeah, I can see how it's easy to forget about that one!

Wake up man!!!

Afraid you'll actually have to debate the issue on its own merits

I really, really, really, really wish I could.

yep, thats for sure

JL:

Why are you surprised that asking a Walker supporter to 'name reasons why Walker is bad for Wisconsin' that they cannot name one thing? Most Walker supporters think that Walker is good for Wisconsin...

There is division because of the 'over the top' reaction on the part of the left to Walker's policies. Their 'gloom and doom' propaganda and their refusal to take an honest look at what Walker is doing is the problem...

Start naming the reasons.

I'll play, using Anti's shopping list:

1. "Eliminated 3.6 BILLION dollar deficit/Balanced the budget" No. Restructured debt, incurring $153 million in new interest fees we didn't have before. No "surplus."
"Without raising taxes" Low income people's taxes rose because of cuts to EIC and Homestead tax credits.
"And without massive layoffs" Nearly 18,000 public employees have left the state payroll through layoffs, early/forced retirements. To-date.
"Or cuts in services" Services were cut for families with children at Ethan Allen and the nearby girls' unit when this facility closed. Tax credits for low income people were cut; access to BadgerCare/Seniorcare was cut; etc.
"(at least for those governments that chose to use them)" These programs are in place for good reason.
"Lowered property taxes for first time in years" This is not true for everyone, and lowering some people's property taxes for a few dollars at the expense of other people's wellbeing and security is cruel and shortsighted.
"Returned power to local governments" They already had power appropriate to their district. Now that have lost power in the area of tax increases needed because of budget cuts, i.e. K-12 education.
"Voter ID, Concealed carry, Castle doctrine" 15 incidences of fraud in 2010, none preventable by Voter ID. Some people feel more powerful with a gun. Nationally, deaths have increased in states with Concealed carry/Stand your Ground. Nice.

I see no victory in any of this.

I get it

I can name 3.6 Billion reasons why Walker is GOOD for Wisconsin.
That clearly outweighs your single 'division' reason.

Oh Bren, you are back to that silly game of spin the facts.
Restructuring debt is only part of equation. We have alot more debt than even Governor Walker could have figured out how to pay for. The structural debt is simply how are we going to pay for our obligations, including debt payments, for the next two years. Restructuring debt is like refinancing your home at a lower rate.
There were no massive layoffs except in school districts like Milwaukee where they purposely extended their contracts before Act 10 kicked in (for four years in MPSs case)
Across the state, property taxes went down for the first time in 12 years. There is always some fluctuation since taxes are based on property values. Also, the tools were given to local governments, but it is up to the local entities to use them. The state as a whole is the significant fact in this case.
Local governments were enslaved to workers contracts. Businesses have options that governments don't when their employees ask too much. They can pack up and move. This helps them keep the threat of outrageous demands in check.
You and others have been spouting out that there has been no fraud in elections. Now there were "15 incidences of fraud in 2010"? Even one is unacceptable. Voter ID may not stop fraud, but it will lessen it by making it harder. And who doesn't have an ID these days?

No Bren, your candidate is wrong for Wisconsin.

Thank you GOD for Scott Walker!

@Bren-Ya ask Chicago how their NO GUN POLICY is working out for them!! Keep spewing the BS there Bren. I didnt see you at the tea party rally today but it would have been tough considering there was close to 4000 people. Compared to the 900 who showed up to see Billy boy.

Gee, does that mean we can all ride his $IOO,OOO,OOO million dollar street car?

I was asking JL for the 100 reasons Walker is bad for Wisconsin. I know why Walker is good for Wisconsin.

@RP - How is 4 or 500 people at a Clinton Rally going to swing momentum. If I was a liberal, I would have been very disappointed in the event.

I doubt Clinton will be reading this.

NOT!!! Looks like the public sector unions are willing to work with the people? Just ask our neighbors in IL. I believe they are talking strike now.

@Todd-Ya thats hysterical. I was at the Tea Party Rally today and the official number at the Clinton rally was 900. Well we had approx 4000 people who showed up to support Gov Walker and to show the people we agree with Walkers policies

now that was funny

@Mike-Were you there? Thats what I thought. Now u pretty funny too

Walker release the emails in the John Doe investigation that will really get the state reeling. There is probably enough in those emails to end his political career , his marriage , and put him away in prison for a long time. The crime boss is going down hard along with all of his cronies. Everyday the rope is getting a little tighter around his neck and he's really beginning to feel the pressure building. Just a matter of time Walker and your toast. Toss some more money into that defense fund , your lawyers will take every penny you got and laugh when they haul your ass away.

Yes Governor, violate John Doe Investigation laws and ethics and release those emails. That way when they find out there is nothing in the emails to implicate you they can still fall back on your releasing the emails prematurely.

@Recall-Thats why this Country is so great because we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that gives us certain inalienable rights. The most important is Freedom and the second most important is innocent until proven guilt by a jury of our piers. Now if I am correct Gov Walker has not even been accused or charged of any crime yet you all have him guilty. You would do very well in the Middle East, Korea, China maybe with your ideology. YOUR FREE TO LEAVE AT ANYTIME.

Hoffa, that was good,I have to go change my wet pants

The judge told Walker's attorneys that the emails could be released thru a third party. If Walker is so willing to co operate then why not release the emails ?

@The Anti-Alinsky ... Brush up on the facts and then open mouth, you make yourself look real stupid. Almost as stupid as Patriot. Walker will be unedited shortly after the election. Walker will be put on trail , found guilty and sentenced.

Recall its ok I understand you cant help it.

@ReCall!

Either you weren't listening to Walker's answer to that question during the debate, or you're just reveling in the DPW's new mantra of hypocrisy.

You guys claim to want Walker to work together and comprise with Democrats, right?

Well, Milwaukee County DA Chisholm, a Democrat, asked him not to release the emails as a courtesy and out of respect for their investigation. Walker is complying with that request.

Now, you want him to release the emails, which would be contrary to Chisholm's request?!?!

Once again, proof that Barrett and the Dems are targeting the low information, non-thinking voter!

Thanks Mike :-)

@Patriot ... Are you going to have your puberty party the same day as the election ?

@Recall- Actually that is what I was thinking. WOW!! Great minds do think alike. I will send u an invitation if u would like? Your a real class act!!! The very mindset that destroyed our capital building, pissed in the corners, trashed the place, PIGS!!! Just like your occupy movement that what has 12 or so people for the cause!!
Again Recall its beyond your pea size brain to comprehend simple economics.

You better reread your source ReCall ! A third party can release any information they have in their possession. That doesn't mean Governor Walker can just give them to you and you can release them.

You really need to get more details before you post things like that!

I don't know if Clinton had to have his arm twisted. I think he's always happy to have a podium and and an audience in front of him. Time of day wasn't the greatest. Thankfully there were enough public employees (overworked, underpaid, unappreciated scapegoats that they are) who had no problem blowing off part of their workday to show up so he wasn't preaching to just the 6-8 regular occupants of the park and the media contingent.

"Wisconsin cannot better itself without a plan."

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So would it be correct to assume you won't be voting for Barrett on Tuesday?

@bob - walker has a plan. We all know that. It doesn't reflect the values of a lot of people. I understand ours to be a representative government, yet the only way I'm represented, these days, is with an entire turnover of power. That's just seems ridiculous. And the only way that changes is if you and I insist for it.

What's important to you and those that share your opinion is valid and worthy of thoughtful consideration. Same with me and mine. Quite frankly, between us are reasonable inclusive ideas, I'm sure.

I expect, and you should, ask for what Barrett has done. His active participation and support of the M7 is what I'm talking about. They're scope is diverse and inclusive, and they've had success. That said, I'm sure you'll find faults. Change comes in small bits. That's okay. I don't expect to change your mind. I just want to feel understood...a little.

I don't expect Barrett to have a plan at-the-ready. He has a job already. That said, I trust that he will listen to you, too. I will hold him to that. You deserve that. So do I.

The longer that we dismiss each other as crazies and categorize each other as something other than us - liberals, tea partiers, union thugs, conservatives, corporate terrorists, progressives, name the label - the deeper we'll get. We all want the same thing - just see different ways to get there.

Ah! Proofread miss! Beware of predictive text!
"they're scope is..." S/b their.
I feel silly posting this but want to close the potential "look how dumb this liberal is" line of conversation...

So you are going to be voting for Barrett, even though he doesn't have a plan, which you readily admit. And, even though, in your words, Wisconsin can't better itself w/o a plan.

What part of what you've posted here would you like me to take at face value and what part would you like for me to assume that, even if it doesn't make sense or if it seems consistent, has some foundation in something you've rationalized as a substitute for substance? Just so we're not going back and forth all day here....

I want Barrett to develop a strategic plan in an inclusive, transparent way. To do what we need, takes thoughtful engagement. And that takes time. That is what I expect from him. It's also what I expected of Walker - though his method is a little one-sided. Simply - that's my issue.

So, assuming Barrett is successful and wins, and subsequently develops a "plan" and that plan doesn't meet with the expectations of folks who don't necessarily think like you do, and they launch a similar recall within the allotted time limits for doing so, you're good with that? Are you good with that going forward every time those in the party out of power aren't happy with the "plan" of the party in power?

"Not feeling heard."

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There's your problem right there.

Rock Star Billy boy is a porn store. He redefined oral sex!! He was against recalls, he ushered in NAFTA which sent thousands of jobs out of this country union jobs as well, was nearly impeached and this is the best the left has?
Being a rock star is awesome!!! He is a rock star because America is desperate to have a leader like Gov Walker. A leader who does what they say they will do, who is not influenced by special interests groups esp those big union bosses!!

After all kids idolize ROCK STARS as well as adults. It was obvious at the Tea Party Rally today with the near 4000 supporters

Lets not forget about all the POOP Mayor Barrett dumps into the lake everytime it rains. Thats just one of Barretts failed promises