For God's sake, we spend more on defense than at least the next 15 countries combined, with a military built for the cold war. This is not defending the country, but the fat bank accounts of the defense contractors.

As usual, the Canadians call us out -- http://tinyurl.com/ak59o8v. This is an excellent case history about what's wrong on how we spend on the military.

For those of you who cry like babies over spending, this is the place to start.

The military is usefull. Throwing money at the FSA is NOT.

No Keith, sending 30 F-16's to Eygpt along with 200 Abram tanks like Obama is doing is keeping the defense contractors in fat bank accounts. Another brllian Obama move. Let's just give the good stuff to the Muslim Brotherhood. Kind of like another Fast and Furious. Arm our enemies, while weakening our own defense. Brilliant strategy. Worked so well arming the drug cartels. Maybe that's why Obummer wants to confiscate our guns, to arm Al Quaeda...just saying.

It's okay for Obama to arm the Muslim Brotherhood but not protect the USA?

There is no such thing as an Obamaphone except in the minds of TEAPublicans.

Fast and Furious? Brian, you guys are like dogs with a chew toy. Once it gets in your mouth no one can take it out.

We know your channel changer is glued to FOX, but here's something rational about the Muslim Brotherhood -- http://tinyurl.com/6cohewx.

I'm only offering this up because I know rational screws you up.

Rational Schmitzy? In “Audacity of Hope” Obama writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261. How is that rational to Americans?

It's only irrational to you, the irrational. There are radical Catholics, there are radical Hundis, there are radical Jews. I don't know of radical Presbyterians or Buddhists.

Somehow you assume all Muslims are radical. Hope the doctor that performs your vasectomy is a Muslim.

Brian's little rant of course about the Muslim Brotherhood is a smokescreen to divert away from the issue about out of control military spending.

The point. There is a lot of places we where we could better spend that money.

Can you all stick to the point, or is the ADHD too advanced?

Keith- Radical Muslims call for the eradication of Jews and Americans. The leader of the Egyptians has as recently as two weeks ago, has made those claims, and we arem him with top notch military hardware, and Im the one being irrational?

"The leader of the Egyptians has as recently as two weeks ago."

Can't find that statement anywhere other the usual nitwit right wing sites.

Again, what's that got to do with money being wasted by defense contractors? You off the Ritalin?

Schmitzy must be a Muslim.

Maybe, maybe not. But we know for a fact that you're a childish idiot.

@WPN
Ummm... you realize whites were not here first? This country was occupied by what you'd probably call the "red man".

Please go spew your hate-filled filth and nonsense elsewhere. You're a sad, sad person.

With whites like you they should be in the minority.

What's this got to do with Ryan's statement, except to spark off an out of control rant?

Germany tried that first with Jews.

I'm guessing your WPN stands for White Power Nation?

If Obama wanted to damage the Republicans he'd find a way to make it harder for Republicans to vote, create long lines at suburban polling places, reapportion Republican districts, break up corporations so they can't finance Republican campaigns and divide up the electoral college votes in red states.

@jeffjandl... You set a new record with six spelling and grammatical errors in less than two lines.

Your thought process leaves much to be desired and says a great deal about you.

Probably home schooled.

This is hilarious. Now Eddie attacks The President by praising the very person who makes conservatives go berserk.

That might make sense if it weren't for the fact that the one-term agenda was set by certain GOP bigwigs -- Ryan included -- on the night of the inauguration..

I wish someone could point me in the direction of an instance of the opposing party NOT working to have a president be a one-termer.

Well, maybe William Henry Harrison.

He made it 31 days. Can a political party get a plan together in 30?

Pneumonia's not a plan?

Excellent case of a suicide by political speech.

Bob McBride -

While it is true in any 2-party system, the opposition would like to limit their opponent to one term. I know of no other president or opposition party hierarchy who met on Inaugural Day, and vowed with such vehemence to not only make this president a ONE term president, but to stop every single piece of legislation that he proposed dead in its tracks, not to allow him to have any legislative victories, no matter how it affected the nation or its economy.

This is nothing more or less than a total “scorched earth policy” in action. The GOP acted like little children, saying, in effect, if we cannot have it, then we will destroy it so no one can have it.

The sadder part is that nothing has changed, except the rhetoric of the GOP; they will now verbalize the potential of “compromise” and being an “inclusive party” that will accept tanned people, and their “war on women” and “reproductive rights” on “Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security” will be toned down in speeches; however, the same hatred, bigotry and intolerance, and goal to destroy all the above is still there, and, of course, the Todd Akins’ will be discouraged from speaking in public.

Could someone point me in the direction of an instance of the opposing party going this far, with such extreme tactics and vehemence in all of our history to achieve that ONE term goal?

John Wilson, how about showing some proof of anything you just stated? I'm guessing it must be from liberal blogs and you got that confused with actual facts.

John, just for the record I didn't read what you posted. Carry on.

Bob McBride -

Your nose is growing... boring...

Chadwick –

I asked YOU to cite the many legislative accomplishments of Ryan; after all, you disparaged mine and said they were not FACT.

Suggestion: IF you are going to attempt to back someone up for ANYTHING, do YOUR RESEARCH ahead of time, so you know what you are talking about, otherwise, you simply do not appear to be very truthful or credible…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/paul-ryan-bills_n_1769816.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/paul_ryan/400351

http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/08/paul-ryans-legislative-record-is-pathetic.html

When you challenge me, please come with FACTS, not FEELINGS and simple opinions, “You bring nothing of substance and take up valuable data storage for nothing more important than one off comments with absolutely no basis in reality.”

It is comforting to know that at least ONE person in your family has both cognitive abilities and the courage to vote for meaningful change...

Now please deal with the 3-links to “reality”, and YOU inform ME of all those many Ryan legislative and other accomplishments…

John,

Actually she is the one person in our family who works part time and confuses compassion with handouts. Ryan's work on the budget committee alone is enough to warrant the utmost respect. If he does nothing else in his entire career at least he tried to open people's eyes to the fact that we are on a path that is unsustainable. Unfortunately we have people like you in this country who think that deficits don't matter and everything should be paid for by someone else. My hope is that this is a temporary swing in the pendulum and we can change our children to become more like our forefathers who worked for what they got and didn't expect a handout.

Chadwick –

“If he does nothing else in his entire career at least he tried to open people's eyes to the fact that we are on a path that is unsustainable.”

The FACT is that ALL of America knew that the path we were on fiscally was “unsustainable”.

That is sort of like telling people that water is wet. Yeah, well what an epiphany! Thanks a lot!

Oops, sorry about that, everyone except Cheney who infamously said, “Deficits don’t matter.”

You set the bar so low for Ryan that if he said fire was hot, you would probably build a church around him.

The man has no legislative accomplishments, lost his VP election, and has done absolutely nothing to help the people of the 1st district or the state of Wisconsin.

You may want to build monuments to spending 2.5 Million of our taxpayer dollars on keeping this clown employed and his clown car running… I do not!

Where are all his accomplishments?

What has he actually done?

NOTHING!

If anyone should be barred from posting on the Patch because they only offer feelings, unsupported opinions and partisan talking points, it would be you. However, I truly believe in free speech, so you may babble on forever about “IF this was the only thing…” GARBAGE!

Once again John your high pierced screaming does nothing to solidify your argument. You state that everyone knows we are on a path that is unsustainable. If that is the case why would you vote for someone who has increased our deficit by over 6 trillion in less then four years? Why would you fight against someone like Ryan who's budget plan didn't cut any spending but only cut future increases? You voted for Obama who has less experience in the private sector then I did when I was in my 20's. The only accomplishment that Obama will have when he is gone that he was the first black president (which I do believe is a good thing for our country) other than that his presidency will be considered a complete failure by all economic standards. Keep preaching your hate of an honest hard worker like Ryan. Hatred seems to be the only thing you libs have.

Chadwick –

I am still waiting for all those FACTS about Ryan’s accomplishments that I asked you for… crickets…

Republicans hate government, that is why they are horrible at governance!

I voted for President Obama, both times, because he is the right man for the job. The spending of 6 Trillion had to occur to keep the economy going, pay for the wars Bush kept off the books, the 50 Billion in Medicare pharmaceuticals [GIFTS] that Bush gave to Big Pharma – charge as much as you want, the government will NOT force you to negotiate on price – the Wall Street, Banks and Housing issues. You cannot just refuse to pay all the governments bills, destroy the world economy because you believe in austerity.

Furthermore, Ryan voted for the Bailout Bill and 94% of the Bush administrations extravagant spending; so you had better find some FACTS before you come at me with President Obama’s spending. We need a balanced approach, targeted spending and targeted cuts.

Ryan wants to cut Medicare to the bone, destroy Medicaid, and drive Social Security either into bankruptcy or have Wall Street take it over as a privatization. Subsequently, he wants to massively increase military expenditures, at the cost of those 3-programs. I am deeply opposed to all four of those proposals as they, more than anything that President Obama could possibly every do would bankrupt America, destroy what is left of the middle class and bring the world economy down along with it.

John Wilson, so you complain about Bush's spending and then you state Obama is the right man for the job? Wow, you are one of those crazy left wing libs who truly can't look past the (D). Obama is Bush on steroids plain and simple. I didn't like Bush's spending or his drug bill but to complain about that and then brag about Obama is just ridiculous. I have already stated that I consider Ryan's work on budgets worthy of respect. Just because you don't feel that way doesn't mean I don't have to and considering your positions I consider it almost necessary to disagree with everything you spew as not to be relegated to a hopeless and unimportant life derived of nothing other than hatred of those who succeed.

Chadwick –

Bush’s spending was prolific, extravagate, unnecessary and stupid… and it created the America’s 2nd depression.

President Obama's spending was targeted, necessary, indeed, required and intelligent… to get us out of the Bush’s depression.

ALL economic indicators are up and in the positive direction, ALL; 35 months of consecutive positive employment creation. More jobs have already been created up to this point than in the entire 8-years of the Bush administration.

The WISHFUL THINKING of the GOP is not going to create anything.

Again, Republicans hate government that is why they are so horrible at governance…

You folks are entirely clueless!

@John Wilson, clueless could be used to define your grasp of reality. I have already stated that Bush spent way to much. You on the other hand can't admit that Obama's spending has been ridiculous and out of control to the 9th degree.Bush took over during a recession and went to two wars (that were approved by democrats also) so that accounts for a lot of his spending. The housing bust was mostly created by the great democrats in 98 who thought that every person in the US should have a house and then the banks proliferated upon that. You also complain about a $50 billion drug plan for Medicare and applaud Obamacare which could lead to our fiscal demise; here is a little tid bit from the GAO only six days ago.

The Government Accountability Office, 2013:

The Government Accountability Office (GAO)’s annual audit of the government, released Thursday, raises serious concerns about the federal government’s long-term financial stability and the effectiveness of the Affordable Care Act’s cost-curbing measures.

The report found “that—absent policy changes—the federal government continues to face an unsustainable fiscal path.”

I choose not to have any further discussion with you John Wilson as I am afraid you are to far gone to have any sort of meaningful dialogue with. If you decide to wake up and smell the coffee and actually evaluate both parties with an equal eye let me know.

Chadwick -

You never answered any of my questions regarding any of Ryan's accomplishments.

What are Ryan's accomplishments? Crickets... and more crickets...

Diversions, about everything, no answers to my questions.

You have no case; you have no FACTS; you have no argument...

Finally, Republicans hate government that is why they are so horrible at governance…

@JohnWilson, I actually did answer your question about why I think Ryan is successful. You need tame the hate and try to read and comprehend at the same time. I think the hatred of other successful people is taking up to much of your brain capacity and your losing your reading comprehension. You've also used the same tired slogan three times in the same post so you should probably jump on the daily kooks and look up some new ones. If I thought you would truly listen to reason and read article then I would look up some articles to show you how the recessions have started and how most of Obama's job creation is in the public sector but I don't think you will actually change your opinion no matter how many times you are shown the light I think you would rather prefer to sit in the dark.

I think all politicians should be limited to two terms. One in office. One in prison.

Presidential - one time in office and you are done or wait out the following term. All federal and state elected positions same. Break the cycle of entrenchment and favoritism.

NObama....I agree with you !!!! So sad for AMERICA

NObama -

Mourning is a healthy human emotion; you are going to be the healthest human in American, because Hillary will be the new President for 8-years after President Obama leaves office in 2017...

Hillary will be 6 feet under in 2016. Have you seen her lately? She looks like an obese zombie...

If she's a zombie that means she'll be around longer to torment Republican men.

I am a Republican. I worry that Hillary has a bigger health issue than what we know. The lined glasses for double vision either mean she had one helluva bad fall and bruises on her brain. or there is something more sinister involved. (which I pray for her is not the case)
But this could be the reason for her early retirement.
I do not want her to be President, but I would prefer her to Obama.
Brain Dey: My sister died from brain cancer. She was dosed with large quantities of steroids in the beginning. She became inflated from the steroids not unlike Hillary.
Let's hope Hillary is just putting on some weight from age. Politics aside, no one should have to endure the process of brain cancer.

That is the most uneducated comment I have read. Out of all the women in my family only one voted for BO. The only reason to vote for BO is if you want to receive a paycheck from the govt; don't care if the country goes broke when your children are adults or consider social issues like the right to abortion more important than the sanctity of our country. If this country ever does fail it will because people stopped earning their own way and started relying on the govt.

Phiddy 1- You are deranged. No, that would be a step up.

My feelings have nothing to do with Paul Ryan. Obama is the worst thing that has
ever happened to OUR country!!!

Phiddy1: Ryan did win reelection to his current position. There is some who speculate he would have won the Presidential race if he were running for President and not VP.
Perhaps it will be Ryan in 2016 !
Not that anyone would want the job after 8 years of Obamanomics.

If by abuse you mean voting for her. Don't make me flag your lies.

Did Republicans vote for Hillary in the primaries, Steve? So-called conservatives and their media mouthpieces like Rush Limbaugh have been slamming her, namecalling, etc., for quite some time.

And careful with that flag button. I don't think it's supposed to be used just because you disagree with someone...

You are such a hypocrite, Bren.

Steve ® -

You know how to flag?

When did this happen?

What are the rules for the flag button? Lies seem to be as good of a reason as growing weary of a subject. You disagree with me asking Hoffa if he got something, so YOU get to flag it?

Cow, any basis for that accusation?

Greg, the moderator is tired of the bet. I think we're all tired of it.

Hey Bren, remember when Hillary ordered the hit on Vince Foster?

Yes, Bren. You seem to tire from all the attacks coming from those on the right, while ignoring those coming from those on the left. You complain about off topic comments from those on the right, but do nothing about the off topic comments from those on the left.

You seem to be flagging posts more because you disagree with their positions of the poster rather because of the content of the posts.

Bren,
Like I said, you could self edit, tolerance is an independent trait. The moderator may have just tired of you flagging things that don't involve you

OBAMA GETS IMPEACHED!!
Love to read this. Lovers going to love.

even she is better than obummer...

andrea -

Ryan already has, though the 40 Billion in oil subsidies that he pushed through as his example of "cutting spending."

Stock market hitting record highs. What? Over 30 straight months of job growth. Yeah. Obama sucks big time. Another case of the gullible being angry and out of control.

Record highs? Please explain the stock market hitting record highs.
Which market are you referring to? The DJIA or ?
Do you even understand how it works?

http://kirklindstrom.com/Articles/2012/1012_DOW_Dow_Jones_Average_Adjusted_For_Inflation_Historical_Chart.html

You should be barred from posting on this forum. You bring nothing of substance and take up valuable data storage for nothing more important than one off comments with absolutely no basis in reality. A congressman does little to nothing to establish business & govt relationships within his own state. Implying that he is at fault for the destruction of Chrylser is comical and would be scoffed at by any economist. Your anger over the fact that your life has gone poorly and you blame everyone else shows through on every post and unfortunately also shows that you do no research on any topic you post about.

Not to mention his "Path for Prosperity" "budget" if you've read it, does not provide a road map, much less crunch "real" numbers.

His role model/heroine, a fiction writer, was likewise fuzzy on practica in promoting her philosophy of Existentialism, er, Objectivism. Ayn Rand, however, can be only blamed with borderline plagiarism and toying with people's patience. Paul Ryan would experiment with people's lives. When we are having real-life impact on others I believe our expectations must be set a bit higher.

Chadwick, please re-read your own post, particularly the parts about substance and reality. Use of the term "oversaw" is interpreted as happening on his watch. Which is true. Parker Pen's long death spiral also ended on Ryan's watch. What can a poor Congressman do to help? In an indirect way, quite a lot, actually. It requires picking up the phone and calling people, and most of all, caring.

Bren,
You should spend time helping people learn English. You bring nothing of value to the Patch. Unless someone is paying you to post "Rand" as many times as possible. If you want to blame someone for the problems Wisconsin had and businesses we lost you can look at the fact that democrats ran this state at the time it happened and before.

Chadwick –

Well, then laugh on, right into oblivion… or perhaps you would care to refute my FACTS with Ryan’s many extraordinary accomplishments?

“A congressman does little to nothing to establish business & govt relationships within his own state.”

Really, and your opinion is supported by what delusion or WISHFUL THINKING?

Ryan is all over his district and others, when he is not in DC body building, holding many meetings, spewing his propaganda – he calls them “Listen Sessions – as he passes out illegal bribes in the form of Sub-Sandwiches, too small a campaign law violation to be prosecuted by Republican DA’s, but against the law nonetheless.

Your woefully inadequate attempt to rescue Ryan from his own lack of any legislative achievements or any accomplishments at all for the state of Wisconsin is entirely devoid of both reason and FACT.

Ryan is a man of outstanding hubris and archaic ideology, only that and nothing more…

Ayn Rand was not too far off. Obama is stealing everything from the makers in this country. He wants government to control of everything.

Love to hear how Paul Ryan is a maker, beyond being a maker of BS.

Greg, every thought of getting a grip? You make the rest of your ilk look like fools to those who are just reading these posts.

Keif posts hammered again, Bren should flag this.

Keith Schmitz
8:19 pm on Monday, January 28, 2013
Greg, every thought of getting a grip? You make the rest of your ilk look like fools to those who are just reading these posts.

The real Keif Schmitz always comes out.

Greg -- since you apparently read the Bible but don't comprehend it, here's verse for you -- "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone."

You are living proof that gullibility makes people mean and nuts.

BTW -- I'll bet you do one drink and you'd be under the table. Your mental acuity seems to bear that out. But we'll never know because you are too scared from coming out from behind your screen name.

Hey disease, who am I to come between you and the screwing you love from the 1%?

Keith,
You finally said something that is correct, one drink may well do me in. I hope you will excuse me for not taking your bet as I don't use alcohol and you would never pay on the bet anyway. I guess i'm not a real man if I don't crawl out of a bottle.
I will not quote the bible, I will quote Dean Vernon Wormer instead "Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life". And if you didn't notice, you cast the first stone. Sober up.

You going to play that childish game of who said what first or do you have anything to offer us Greg?

Yeah, I'll be the first to admit I've got a few pounds to lose, but at least I've got the guts not to hide behind a screen name.

What exactly do you have to be afraid of? Or does using just your first name give you license to say any damned thing you please? That's just plain chickencrap. No two ways about it.

Keith Schmitz wrote: "Greg...BTW -- I'll bet you do one drink and you'd be under the table..."

Schmitzy really is a slow learner.

On top of his other nonsense, John Wilson wrote: "... Additionally, he oversaw the destruction of AMC, Delphi and Chrysler, as they all went bankrupt or left the state..."

To lay the blame for a business leaving is just plain stupid. While a Congressman can help to save a business, it takes alot more than his effort.
Also, Chrysler got rid of the AMC line ten years before Ryan was elected to Congress, Delphi was poorly run and used irregular accounting practices, and the bond rating decrease was due to TOO MUCH DEBT!!!

Keep throwing the lies out, and I'll keep shooting them down!

Keith,
I can read who said what first, I even saved it in my post so you can't delete it like you deleted that you were sending the check.
I see you still don't quite get the concept of a screen name, it's a little complicated for a sloppy drunk. I don't hide behind anything, I would be glad to meet up for a cup of coffee sometime, you can add a little juice to yours.
I don't need a license to say any damn thing I please and I most certainly do not need your permission or approval.

The Anti–Alinsky –

Happy Birthday, Dear Paulie! Today is your 43rd birthday; it is always comforting to see someone’s age catch up with their IQ! We will be going catfish noodling this morning, Bible thumpin’ this afternoon, P90X power training in the early evening, after that, we will sit around and read of those 200-year old Austrian economists – thoroughly debunked centuries ago – but Paulie is so in tune with them and thinks they are so relevant and insightful for the 21st century.

AMC > Renault > Chrysler… “While a Congressman can help save a business, it takes a lot more than his effort.” Yes, however, it does take SOME effort. “The Jeep/Eagle Division of Chrysler was formed from the remains of AMC after Chrysler’s 1987 buyout. We certainly would not want to lay the blame for a business leaving the state on Ryan… it was probably Walker’s fault… not enough freedom from property taxes, business subsidies and that good ol’ “minimum wage labor.”

I think Bren elucidated the use of the word “oversaw” for your cohort Chadwick earlier in this blog; perhaps you too might be capable of at least a little learning…

September 13, 2007.

"Delphi had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005. In August, the company settled lawsuits by investors who accused the company's former managers of fraud.”

Ryan helped them...

Just another sterling example of how “businesses” works in Wisconsin.

John Wilson wrote: "...We certainly would not want to lay the blame for a business leaving the state on Ryan… it was probably Walker’s fault…"
So now you've jumped ship to the anti-Walker side? and probably doesn't cut it, how about some facts for a change instead maligning people that don't agree with you?

John also wrote: "I think Bren elucidated the use of the word “oversaw” for your cohort Chadwick earlier in this blog; perhaps you too might be capable of at least a little learning…"
Bren attempted to refine "oversaw" to suit her argument. To oversee is to have an active SUPERVISORY role in the actual event. Sow how did Paul Ryan SUPERVISE the destruction of AMC, Delphi, and Chrysler in this state?

Bren also attempted to tie Paul Ryan to Parker Pen, with: "Parker Pen's long death spiral also ended on Ryan's watch. "
Long death spiral kind of indicates the company had been in trouble long before Mr. Ryan came on the scene.

John also wrote: ""Delphi had filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2005. In August, the company settled lawsuits by investors who accused the company's former managers of fraud.”

Ryan helped them... "

You got a link to that, or does that fall under your category of "probably"?

The Anti-Alinsky –

You do know, of course, that the only reason I engage in any dialog with you at all is so that I can see my written words in quotes…

Look up the definition of rhetorical and while you are there, check out nuance.

Is English your FIRST language?

Have you seen the pattern here Johnny?
1) You make some silly comment, usually based on some Liberal talking point.
2) I, and others like Chadwick, Greg and Brian Dey, refute your nonsense with facts, reason, insight, or usually all three.
3) You then respond with silly insults like:
“Your nose is growing... boring...”

“You folks are entirely clueless!”

“Is English your FIRST language?”

“judy kozlowski -Well, I know for a fact ONE of you are... (a fool)”

How about some thoughtful responses instead. I mean really, you are still trying to blame the AMC demise and Chrysler leaving on Ryan TEN YEARS before he was elected to congress??? Where did you get your information, from the government website departmentofnumbers.com???

And you still haven't posted anything about Ryan's involvement in the Delphi bankruptcy.

Blair, wake me when you have rational thought outside of the talking points.

If you are looking for welfare mothers, and we know you are, make a dead stop at the defense contractors.

Eric –

I think President Obama respects everyone; Ryan, because he is immature, petulant and very thin-skinned, only respects himself and his archaic ideology.

Gosh, Biden – Mr. both feet in his mouth at the same time – mopped up the floor with Ryan during their debate. Ryan drank enough water to be a burrow getting ready to cross the Sahara Dessert. [I think old Joe has already quite effectively “taken Ryan out”.]

“The president wants to take out Ryan since he is an effective champion the opposition's ideas.”

What ideas would those be that Ryan is so “an effective champion” at articulating?

Would those be the ones he spoke of during his last VP election campaign?

It would seem to me that the electorate and all of America said a resounding “NO” to those…

So then Johnny boy, ALL of Wisconsin said a sesunding yes, not once but TWICE for Walker. Like you said majority rules!

Biden still tinks HE'S the President. And lest us forget how racist Biden is (They gonna put y'all in chains). He's a buffoon, just like Obumble brains. Obumble respects only those that agree with his socialist ideas. He has no respect for the Constitution as recently ruled by the Appellate Court. Ryan drank the water only to prevent himself from laughing at the idiot.

@ John Wilson
"I think President Obama respects everyone"

THAT is the funniest thing I have ever read in my life.

Brian Dey –

Ryan drank the water because like all little fish, finding themselves with big fish in a big pond, find themselves lacking in coherent responses, unable to defend his puerile and archaic positions and immensely frightened… he probably wet his speedos too, however, we will leave that one for the historians…

Brian Dey -

When you win an election by a majority of the vote… you RULE!

That’s the way it works in America, both for D’s & R’s.

You may want to share that with your rather thick cohort, Frank McGruber, as, well, he’s a Republican, you know, and he just doesn’t quite get it.

Blair Nielsen -

President Obama won the popular vote by almost 5 Million and the Electoral College vote by 332 - 206.

ALL, Blair, as Majority rules in America!

@John Wilson

"Majority rules".

That's a disgusting and childish attitude. You simply advocate mob rule. And the concept of ruling, when it comes to the US, is abhorrent. You obviously have zero concept of how this country was founded.

Frank McGruber -

Obviously, I do not understand that the person who gets the LEAST amount of votes in a presidential election wins. Hence: “Minority Rules!”

That is why we have President Willard in the White House today...

You and Chadwick should get married…

@John Wilson,

Once again, you miss the point. I can't say I'm surprised.

In the United States of America NOBODY RULES OVER ANYBODY ELSE. That's the point that is obviously lost on you. And is also lost on our current President, and is lost on most on the hard left. We don't have a king/ruler/potentate/dictator/despot and MOST of us would like to keep it that way. Obviously you disagree.

John Wilson said "I think President Obama respects everyone". Well, I think Pres. Obama respects NO ONE BUT HIMSELF!!! He is a complete FOOL!

judy kozlowski -

Well, I know for a fact ONE of you are...

Frank McGruber -

Your grasp of the obvious is simply outstanding... you should probably write a book, something around the lines of "My Pet Goat II" and then read it to all your GOP sycophants, upside down...

Poor John.

Just keep hitting your head against the keyboard and spew your inane drivel.

I haven't checked in here for some time. Now I remember why, same ol same ol.

"One man with a brief case can steal more money than 100 men with guns," Don Corlenone from "The Godfather."

preach on brother Bottom.
Dont worry, he soon will have 11 million more voters...

The only hoe I have is that I'll have a little change left ovr at th end of presidency...

Lyle Ruble -

When was the last time you seen a failed - LOSER - VP candidate resurrected, run for president and win?

@Eric....I understand what you're saying, but I think he's more ideological than pragmatic. His tactics now seem to focus more on positioning himself on social conservatism. This definitely is not a way to national office.

Eric –

No Democrat ever cosponsored a Medicare Bill with Ryan; the Democratic Congressman in question here even publically refuted that. He met with Ryan and they discussed possible scenarios… Ryan – aka also known as Lyin’ Ryan for good reason – characterized these discussions as “cosponsored” a bill with…Ron Wyden (D) Wyoming.

To characterize Ryan as bipartisan is sort of like discussing a virgin harlot. Pragmatic to Ryan means that it matches the numbers he pulled from his derriere when creating a budget.

No one really wants to address these issues in a serious manner, not the D’s or R’s, as that in all probability will mean CUTS, rather than going after the drivers of these expenditures… the “job creators” that rape you daily…

“Gov. Romney is talking nonsense. Bipartisanship requires that you not make up the facts. I did not ‘co-lead a piece of legislation.’ I wrote a policy paper on options for Medicare. Several months after the paper came out I spoke and voted against the Medicare provisions in the Ryan budget. Governor Romney needs to learn you don’t protect seniors by makings things up, and his comments today sure won’t help promote real bipartisanship.”

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/08/13/683201/ron-wyden-pushes-back-at-mitt-romney-linking-him-to-paul-ryans-plans-for-medicare/?mobile=nc

morninmist -

I suspect you are being just a bit overly optimistic; I really do not think that the general population of the TP/GOP is ready for anything other than a fleeting, a very tenuous, relationship with sanity.

The NEW congress will give when they absolutely have to – it is all about their jobs, not WE THE PEOPLE; the TP/GOP has already emailed everyone their NEW “Talking Points” and that is their tactic to WIN THE TANNED VOTE AND THE WOMAN’S VOTE.

Real change is real tough work and it requires insight into the human condition and your own personality and shortcomings; psychotic ideation is not eliminated by feckless “talking points”.

Everything they do is for the acquisition of political and economic power. Cleaning up the racist, race baiting, hateful language, stereotypes and fear mongering against tanned people, contraception, abortion, equal pay and equal rights for women, while silencing the many Todd Akins’ in the party, are just a massive subterfuge with the goal being getting VOTES. They are not even close to that, “come to Jesus moment”.

When Wayne La Pierre stands up and supports a ban on semi-automatic weapons, universal background checks, a 10-magazine maximum, as does 86% of the NRA membership, and sends his lobbyists out to support that, I will seriously begin to reassess my current opinion of the TP/GOP.

Sorry, misty, but linking to motherjones immediately invalidates anything you say.

It would be similar to, in your book, linking to Paul Ryan's own website.

John Wilson,
Tanned people? What the hell are you talking about?

John Wilson, once again you show nothing of substance and use race baiting and complete lies to try and prove a point. 86% of the NRA supports a ban on semi automatic weapons, universal background checks and a 10 magazine maximum? That is complete bs. ( by the way a magazine is a clip so a 10 magazine maximum doesn't even make sense) 86% of the NRA may agree with background checks but I would guess that 86% disagree with you on the ban on semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines. I have several semi automatic weapons and plan on getting more. My guess is that you don't even truly know what a semi auto is or what calibers you can buy. The only way you liberals can fool yourselves into believing your voting for something good and not just a free hand out is to try and turn all the other parties into devils. Well you confused enough weak minded individuals in the last couple elections but I can only hope that the Ineptocracy will end before the country collapses.
1. Ineptocracy
*_Ineptocracy_****(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least

capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the

members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded

with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number

of producers*

"Tanned vote" meaning those exposed to the Florida sun?
Jesus Wilson, that is sad.

Chadwick –

Being part of the TP/GOP cabal that frequently posts on the Patch it is clear that you KNOW THINGS.

“…but I would “guess” that 86% disagree with you on the ban on semi automatic weapons and high capacity magazines.”

That sounds suspiciously like a “guess” to me.

I know it will take some time for you to progress through the anger stage of grief, some folks never do…You may disparage the American electorate all you want because their thinking is not as warped and convoluted as yours and they do not feel as you, because in America we do have “free speech”. That does not change the fact, however, that you lost the election and subsequently, you are a loser. In fact, you TP/GOP clowns lost the popular vote in 5 out of 6 last presidential elections; you lost the last 5 out of 6 Presidential Electoral College elections too – I am discounting the Supreme Court’s decision to give that superb intellectual, GWB the 2000 election… there is a message in this for those wise enough to comprehend and analyze…

Incidentally, there is no money to be made for anyone from NOT selling guns and ammunition; however, there are billions to be made by enticing fearful clowns into buying them as a symbol of their manhood.

I suspect that, as a TP/GOP sycophant you might begin to gain some insight into being a loser, because, after all, you KNOW THINGS…

"sycopath"???? whut dat?

John Zywicke, Have you seen the lates economic news? You know, where it was pointed out that this country slid backward this last quarter due to Obama's policies. Yes President Obama won Wisconsin. So many have no idea they voted for failure....again.

a loser TWICE in opposite land...