You know I'm only one person, right? I'm getting there

Lumping all republicans as rapists comes before reporting on actual news.

@Heather: I know yooz the only one, but keep in mind we read Patch for the local angle, not about some Missouri d*ck-head who sticks his foot in his mouth! Stay focused :)

The Akin story is national news so it was appropriate to ask Gov. Walker for his opinion.

@oak creek resident - pretty sure how I feel about this story is not any part of the reporting.

stella, where is that coming from? Not this article.

@Gearhead - we don't have any comments over on the jobs/investment story. Just wanted to be sure you saw the story! :)

Honestly, how do you not find this disturbing? That a grown man and holder of national office can believe this medieval nonsense? And more frightening, he's not alone in holding this view.

Does he/they also believe in transmutation, flat earth, and planets rotating the earth? Unicorns, Shangri-la?

skinny, Biden was referring to Wall Street. Obama had "both houses of congress" for approximately 6 months, not a lot of time.

@Bren... Obama had both houses for only 6 months?

Yes because the Scott Brown special election. And she was referring to super majority I would think.

Yes, there was also the late seating of Al Franken due to the Norm Coleman challenge.

Thanks for the further information. It never occurred to me that someone would define control of the Senate as the filibuster proof majority, rather than simple majority.

@Jay - Yes, Obama had both houses for about that period of time, but he also had filibusters galore and obstructionists from day one. Blue Dogs may have been elected as Dems, but they vote with the Right. So even from day one he didn't have both houses.

Bren, where is that coming from? Not this article.

Is Ayn Rand replacing the ALEC ghost? Do you not feel that there are tiers or levels of rape?
You did mention Governor Walker...But I won't say that Baldwin is just a union puppet.

I like turtles

Greg, I'm merely pointing out that this wasn't a one-off gaffe by an extreme candidate. This is an actual belief held by a number of GOP'rs who are attempting to pass legislation based on this belief in despite of a lack of scientific/medical evidence. As a person from the 20th/21st Century I find this inane.

Ayn Rand and ALEC are on the current political hotplate. Are you only able to focus on one issue at a time? How unfortunate for you. And no, I do not believe there are tiers/levels to rape. It is a violent act against another human being that has traumatic, lifelong repercussions for the victim, and also family and friends. It doesn't matter if the victim is a female or male. Rape is about rage and power, a sick, vicious, antisocial act that says, "You are nothing. You are a piece of meat." Terror, flashbacks, loss of self/esteem are among the traumatic repercussions. These are exacerbated by fools who suggest the victim somehow had a part to play in bringing a violent crime upon themselves.

Steve the Job Creator, I'm glad you like turtles.

Thanks Bren,
I just wanted to clearly understand, that you thought that someone that is getting the crap beaten out of them in the bushes, was the only type of rape there is. It's not my definition, but now I understand yours.

Are you talking about Hillary Clinton?

WASHINGTON, September 24, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A new biography on Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton reveals that during her time as First Lady, Clinton participated in strange moments of imaginary conversation with a deceased Eleanor Roosevelt from the solarium atop the White House.

Thanks, Chris!

They aren't evident at all. For some, emotional lashing out is always the first response when embarrassed, confused, defensive, whatever. Has nothing to do with the article.

Please provide details of this War. Is there an up/down vote on this War? Do you have a bill number?

Yeah but this involved something that physically happened. Nothing to see here move along. Hey look Paul Ryan wants to rape your grandma and kill your babies.

I certainly didn't report that at the Romney/Ryan bus event yesterday.

Is he one of the Democrats that voted for their War on the Middle Class?

Steve the Job Creator, if only one could be a fly on the wall at one of your staff meetings.

Steve,

Walter Mitty/Brenda Mae Duggar seems to be bucking for a position on your staff. Got a position that sounds important, but really does nothing, that might fit?

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Bob, I'm not so sure about that. I believe I'll enjoy Steve more in our current relationship. ; )

@ Bert
i dont know what the guy was referencing with the poor statement of Legitimate rape . I think he apologized and said he was wrong. Joe Biden didnt apologize and his statement was just as ignorant .But thats just racist JOE right ?
Also .....There is a difference and distinction between Forcible rape and non forcible rape. Take the example of a 18 year old kid with his 17 year old girlfriend. If they have sex do you want them treated the same as a guy that grabs a women in an alley and forcibly rapes her . One is consenting but technically rape in many places.This is a question society must pose as the realities are certainly different . If we don't want to make some distinction in that type of case, we have to greatly increase the rape statistics. If you dont think we have gray areas in rape it is you who are showing some ignorance. The courts and families continue to wrestle with the issue I stated all the time. Where have you been?
No one is out saying the guy is right . But your last paragraph showed little thought as well as the issue is a lot more complex than to ignorantly call all technical rape a forcible attack . I think society would find ignorance in your view as well. Reality is the courts are not very consistent but they do view cases differently because circumstances vary. Your view most would reject as it wouldnt take any factors into account.. I think most would find that unacceptable.

Clearly the individuals indulging in these fantastical ideas have not experienced this type of trauma personally or reviewed case histories, which would allow them to gain a glimmer of understanding into the depth and duration of destruction this crime causes to the victim's psyche and the concentric rings of trauma and anguish to parents, spouses, siblings, etc., which can last a lifetime and even impact future generations. The clause of allowing abortions in instances of rape I believe is intended to end the violation. Carrying a child of rape is a continuance of the violence, and that is what this cast of sorry characters does not think about. This should be an issue between the victim, parents if she is a minor, and professionally trained, credentialed medical staff.

I'm getting tired of these right-wing fringe "fantasies" being aired in public. Pills between the knees, sex ed curriculum, "she asked for it." I was watching tv with a young female relative when video of "Pills Between the Knees" billionaire Foster Friess appeared. Her response? "Creepster!" I 100% agree. Enough is enough.

@ Bren
Be nice if you didnt just randomly type and had a point that was related to something that was written in which you are REPLYING too.........other than you are "TIRED" . Go take a nap. The Patch could use a break from your constant ramblings of nonsense. You seldom make any sense at all.

skinny, I concede that statutory rape represents different criteria. Statutory rape primarily involves taking advantage of an immature individual/minor. Depending on the situation this can have an equally devastating set of consequences.

Try to restrain the urge to deteriorate into negativity, skinny! You were actually involving yourself in discourse. Keep up the good work!

@ Bren
Refer to previous comment. Thank you!

@Bren -- I compliment you re your responses. You clearly make an effort to bring truth and facts to the discussion. Some of us do appreciate and value your well-reasoned contributions even if we might have a different political philosophy.

However, we should be patient with Skinny. He's really challenged when it comes to intelligent discourse. For example, he loves to use the "Caps" key for effect. Obviously. However, he doesn't know how to spell or how to use a spell checker. The only way he knows how to respond is with negativity and insults.

BTW, he claims to have had some instruction in economics. So if you should be involved in an exchange with him re that subject, beware. He must be really knowledgeable.

I wonder if he also had some instruction in law, or sociology, or morals and ethics.

You might enjoy reading this discussion where he demonstrates a remarkable determination to avoid staying on topic or responding to questions. Talk about not "REPLYING too............" In this discussion, he wouldn't reply to anything. Weak.

http://mountpleasant.patch.com/articles/walmart-s-elmwood-park-plan-not-any-more-welcome-than-in-mount-pleasant#comment_3051432

Wow! I love helping karma along.

D'oh! Great minds ... LOL

mau, Paul Ryan follows the teachings of atheist philosopher Ayn Rand, who incidentally was pro-choice. If it all seems confused and off-kilter that's because it is. I don't know anyone who can reconcile atheistic philosophies with religious beliefs; it is one or the other. Much as he tries to backpedal Ryan is on record (AtlasShrugged) as crediting atheist adulteress Ayn Rand for molding his philosophical viewpoint since he was young.

If females truly had a magic anti-pregnancy secretion, would that make rape a less disgusting, sick, and violent crime? I suggest not, as rape is primarily about power/dominance/suppression.

So Paul Ryan is pro-choice?

Greg, there's been so much ducking and weaving, who even knows anymore. Romney seems intent on subduing Ryan's messaging, which is not to say he disagrees with the messaging.

If these folks would put equal zeal into eliminating poverty and bringing jobs home as they do in trying to regulate other people's lives...

@Bren, you have now taken one Senator's philosophy and labeled Paul Ryan with it. How did you come up with that jump?

I have many friends who are atheists and other religions, who I share beliefs with. I don't shut people out just because I don't agree with their philosophy 100%. I have many Mormon friends and know several Scientologists. I even know a few Native Americans who practice what may be considered "out of the mainstream". I may not agree with their religious or non-religious beliefs, but that does not stop me from sharing with or respecting their philosophical viewpoints.

As far as your statement "magic anti-pregnancy secretion", why are you labeling pro-lifers with this blanket statement. As skinnyDUDE stated, not all rapes are created equal.

mau, the "jump" as you refer to it involves Paul Ryan's co-sponsorship of bills with Akin. And by no means do I lump all pro-lifers into the "magical secretion" category. The pro-lifers I know are against abortion for religious/personal moral code reasons. Not one has mentioned the "magical secretion."

Other than the legal categories of rape (statutory/non-statutory) there are no other tiers of rape. It is a violent crime.

What's the deal that Ryan co-sponsored a bill with him. Does that mean that anyone who co-sponsored a bill with Hillary Clinton, automatically believes in seances and participated in them with her. And where do you even get that Ryan is a believer in or was even aware of such a thing as "magical secretion". I never even heard of that since this whole story broke.

You are like the old babba leaning over the back yard fence whispering gossip into her neighbors ear.

Paul Ryan's voting record shows he is pro-life, except in cases of rape and incest. Therefore Bren's Ayn Rand claims are debunked by Paul Ryan's independent thinking. Bren's conclusions about Ryan and Rand, are strangely the same as those in the Catholics United playbook. Ayn Rand was an adulteress, did Paul Ryan mess around? No that was Bill Clinton.

You are certainly a persistent dumb ass Tao, figures that you are liberal. The morning after pill simply won't exist, so problem solved. Get it?

That might be the single stupidest thing I've ever read. Because the US outlaws it, it won't exist? Think about how drop-dead stupid that is. I've got to say it again; that is a massively stupid thing to think.

Canada won't outlaw the morning-after pill, nor will any number of countries around the world, so it will exist, and there will always be a black market for it. So, women will be raped, and some of them will get the pill. Now what? How long do you want to imprison these poor women, who may or may not have even been pregnant in the first place?

Someone other than Abe, please - this is clearly too complicated for him.

Tao certainly has a thing for abortion, makes you wonder how many he/she/it had.....poor eunuch.

I've got to chime in again on Abe's comment - I'm still reeling from how unbelievably stupid it is. I mean, I can understand bigotry, and ideological blindness, and religious superstition, and all of the other ills that affect the mind of so many Republican voters. But seriously? The US government outlaws it, so it no longer exists? That might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

"Abe," maybe the all-powerful government should just outlaw RAPE while they're at it, and sex outside of marriage, and condoms, and the clap, and people as stupid as you reproducing and/or voting in the first place.

My god, I feel like I've actually been giving you TOO MUCH credit for cognitive ability up until now, and I've just realized that there's a whole new and uncharted frontier of right-wing idiocy out there.

You should probably get back to work for your highly unsuccessful business Tao. Romney/Ryan 2012, your buddy Barry Obongo is going to lose, just like Barrett lost.

Good good times.

That's 3 strikes Abe - you clearly have no answers. Anyone else? How are we going to punish rape victims who take the morning after pill?

Bueller...? Bueller...?

Correction: He's not the "mayor;" he's a "judge."

@mau -- Wow! Do you have a link for this info?