$$andense--did you complain about milw. Cty sheriff providing taxpayer funded security to Romney and Ryan in Waukesha County?

Too bad for the local business that she did not buy another $50,000 of lingerie AGAIN...and "SHE" knows what the little people are going through. Shame on Obama for not coming himself, and for not coming sooner. IMHO, I think he is unwilling to comer here after Scott Walker beat the witch hunt recall.

Why so negative. Every First Lady campaigned. Why these 2 people. So much hate! The GOP, the Right Wing, the Blame Stream Media (FOX, Rush, Beck, Etc,)and people like yourself, have spent an inordinate amount of time, over the last 3 plus years trying to bring down the Obama's. With the joblessness in America, they should have put some time into addressing the joblessness, rather than wasting time on destroying an other human beings life. Nothing sticks. You have thrown everything against the wall and nothing stuck, except he is a Negro. All that time could have been spent trying to solve the jobless problem, one jobs bill would have been nice, but NO! Blame Obama, he is this, he is that. It's a pathetic and historical display of myopic thinking with no positive results. Americans are suffering and the right wing offers hate for the POTUS as a solution.

Their failed attempt to stick it to him, forced them to create their own Obama. A fictional doppelganger. A Fake Obama of their own creation: a Muslim, Socialist, bi sexual, American Hating, Racist, anti-Religion, Constitution Stomping, non citizen, foreigner student, Dictator, with a big butt money wasting wife, and 2 nappy headed daughters, You guys are the only ones in America who see that Obama. It is a sad and pathetic pursuit, a waste of 3 plus years of nothing getting done except a constant drum beat of hate and negativity towards a fellow human being. Jesus loves you. You are not alone.

@William Eib, why so much hate against the Right Wing. Is your hate a more acceptable hate?

You are absolutely right, William Eib.

The United States is information hungry................on Barack Obama and the left wing media is going whack-o because the President is now being exposed for what he is................a Marxist. The documentary 2016 is breaking all attendance records:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/08/25/Box-Office-Aug-25-2012

If these people refer to the First Family. The security of moving any president around is a complicated and expensive maneuver. I don't think the President has much to do with how the Secret Service chooses to do their job. And as far as personal expenditures the First family pays for them. Everything done for the First Family; all meals, dry cleaning, laundry, toothpaste, deodorant, etc. Is paid for by the First Family. They receive a Bill from the White House each month for all of their personal expenses. When they vacation, they pay for the hotel, house rental, and all activities as a family. The Secret Service will not allow a President to drive a car, or fly commercial airlines. So if you would be so kind as to point out how these people are expensive people. I would love to see that recurring statement clarified. Thank You.

She got 'em fired up because she announced KFC now is accepting EBT cards.

Guys, I hope you are proud of yourselves...

What's with the hate and negativity? Are you that sad, you have to demonize the First Lady for kicks.

Does Chik Fil-A accept EBT cards as well???

It's easier to explain the expense involved if you swing by and visit the Sikhs while you're in town.

Michelle Obama lets all the racists and misogynists in the Republican party combine their two favorite things - their hatred for women and their hatred for black people.

They just can't help themselves; as much as they like to pretend that it's all about freedom and taxes, an "uppity" black woman is just too much of an outrage.

Especially considering the fact that she's in town, in part, in response to the Sikh temple shootings, which were committed by a hateful white supremacist like "AWD."

Seriously, you racist, misogynistic, pathetic haters are the lowest form of life.

so chase yourself Tao, you milquetoast gelding.

Abe Froman, I have news for you - you can hate and hate all day, but it won't help you feel any better about the fact that you're a born loser.

Ah, Alfred, I had a feeling Abe was you. All this 'gelding' talk must be pure projection.

Its fun watching these liberals lose election after election, gosh it seems just like yesterday when they all were driving around town with their blue fist bumper stickers and Recall Walker signs on their small yards......good good times

@TOAIST CROCODILE: I ...AM..a woman, and married to a black man, so enough with you comment..."Michelle Obama lets all the racists and misogynists in the Republican party combine their two favorite things - their hatred for women and their hatred for black people" - I look forward to voting against Obama - again. Look beyond your reflection in the mirror, and AT Romney/Ryan who will provide more inner city jobs, rather than re-elect Mr G-D America and his race dividing, Marxist ideology. If you KNEW anything about Frank Marshall Davis, and Obama's own messianic adoration of this card-carrying Communist, you would KNOW you are being played and used. Wake up! Or will you continue to live the "don't be a snitch, I am a victim -save me" lifestyle. While proud of "who" I am, I am ashamed of the 90% in the black community who will blindly vote again for "mo O-ba-ma money." Sad!!!

Uh huh. Well, if the GOP hasn't driven you away, despite its best efforts, then more power to you.

Still, you're the exception. The GOP's problem with women and people of color is well-documented, and well-understood. And if you really think that Romney and Ryan have a plan to bring jobs to the inner cities, then you're probably also still waiting for Scott Walker's 250,000 jobs to get here. If you think the President is a Marxist, then you, like the majority of GOP voters, just don't know what that word means.

UN,
Your points are valid. Since June 2009 the average income for black families has dropped over 11%, for white families the drop was less than half of that. I know we are all hurting under Obama, regardless of color, but the black voters need to get educated and loose the blind trust.

Oh, Hershal and Unions_NO -

You realize that this comment thread was started by a white supremacist who referred to the first black First Lady of the US as the "First Wookie," right? You do realize that the GOP likes to pretend that voters like AWD don't exist, even while feeding them scraps under the table, right?

The idea that the people of color should consider the GOP, when the GOP is on the wrong side of nearly every issue that affects communities of color, is pure farce.

@Unions-NO -- you just blew it by stooping to minstrel-show dialect to characterize Obama supporters.

Remember..........the KKK was a registered Democratic Party entity. Enough said. Yet, blacks continue to vote for this party. Exceptions are the educated, well thought out people of color who stand up for their own rights, want small government and want fiscal sanity so their own kids have to placed on food stamps and socialism. Conservative people of color need to to given a "tip of the hat' because they put up with alot of BS from both sides but have great hearts and want to preserve the Constitution.

Moore has it.
Baldwin had to be pried off Michelle's carpet by the secret service, and Barrett could be heard yelling, "my hand, my hand!"
To think people stood in line for this and walked through metal detectors like the students is too funny.

Real classy, guys.

Baldwin might have a fake penis for her partner.

You certainly don't Greg.

Keith Jackass, That was not one of the choices. If they knew you wanted to play, they would have made the game much less difficult.

Randy. Just stating the obvious. You know Gwen's voice is deeper than yours.
Nothing bad was said about the first lady. She supposedly came to Milwaukee to support the Sikh's, but also had a sick rally with the party.
I was being gentle to keep things civil, could have been much more blunt.

"Nothing bad was said about the first lady."

Other than the carpet remark. Would you rather she'd have met with the Sikhs, flown back to Washington and then come back here for the rally, costing us double for the security? Of course, meeting with the Sikhs was decried as a political stunt in the first place.

Tell me, is there anything the First Family could do that wouldn't provoke sniping?

Actually Randy, the criticism stems from the fact that that this visit was sooooo long after the incident, and Barack Hussein Obama himself didn't show up. This is just going to spur more stories about his Muslim heritage since Sikhs are a completely different religion.

@Anti-Alinsky -- Be honest. There is no possible scenario of how the President and the First Lady could have responded to this that would not have produced jeers and cat-calls from the Right. Too soon, too late, the President is using a tragedy as a photo-op, he's ignoring them, he sent the wife . . .

But the jeers stemming from the sexuality of the participants is especially low, even for what I've come to expect on the Patch.

Randy: "Tell me, is there anything the First Family could do that wouldn't provoke sniping?"
Answer: Yes, the jackass could resign. He never should have been allowed to run anyways.
As for the carpet remark: that was clearly a shot at Baldwin though I could have commented on the nap of the carpet.

You mean like your comments about Ryan and Romney?

Actually Randy, there is a scenario. He could have coordinated with Governor Walker and they could have made a joint appearance during the memorial ceremony.
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But that would involve bipartisanship and co-operation!

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"But that would involve bipartisanship and co-operation!"

Yeah, and the GOP really burned him on that issue.

No, we just mocked the mother and the fools who support her for being mentally challenged.

Nuitari:
If that won't work, she can always say it was a vacation in Spain. I feel bad for the Sikh community. She used their pain and suffering for an Election Year "Photo-Opp".

BAZINGA...

Yes Keif, you prefer your women to be morbidly obese with a face like Helen Thomas.

I think he prefers pixie-looking political land sharks.

I agree.

At least Mr Romney paid for the $17,000 dancing horse, Moochelle is being funded by the working poor and you.

@Abe Froman -- But he writes off the maintenance of the dancing horse as a business expense, which means that we, the other taxpayers of this nation, are paying for that horse. I may not get to ride, but I have to shovel up after it.

"writes off" more proof of the ignorance liberals have of our tax system. Do you have any idea what the AMT is? Do you have any idea how irrelevent deductions have become?

Come On now Randy, you know how write offs work. We are not paying for it, he is simply paying a little less. If you invest thousands of dollars on a business venture I would bet you would do the same.

I do know how write offs work. And I have the moral integrity not to disguise my hobbies as a business and take them off my taxes. So happens, I have two elderly rescue horses on which I spend money, and I love them dearly. How far do you think I'd get if I tried to call it charity or a business?

Trust me, that leaves me a lot less after taxes to live on than Mitt and Ann.

@andrea. You mean the dancing horse that was paid for with her own money? Which makes it absolutely none of your business. A dancing horse. Is that the best you can come up with? But of course liberal women like you are so blantantly jealous of women like Ann Romney and other conservative women, all you can do is try to make fun of them. Typical liberal buffoon.

Talk to the IRS if you have problems with Romney's investment in a parternship for the Olympic horse. I love how you looney liberals with no acumen in anything are now experts on tax law.

Just enough to do my own taxes and run a business, Abe. In what area is your acumen, pray tell?

I'm sure we'd find a lot of interesting stuff if Mitt would release more than two years worth of tax returns.

Are you alleging that the IRS has not done their job for the past 10 years? The reason you and your kind want this information is to confuse the illiterates of your base since you have nothing else on Romney...he is squeakly clean.

Randy, do you actually do something to try to make money with your horses? If so, then don't be stupid and take the tax write-off. Maybe this will help put the whole Ann Romney's horse thing in perspective: ( http://www.buzzfeed.com/nycsouthpaw/romneys-olympic-dancing-horse-didnt-get-him-much )

It's a great thing when you love your career. Ann Romney is trying to make money, but it is a difficult area to do so.

By the way, kudos for the rescues. It's a wonderful thing you are doing.

The thought has actually crossed my mind to sell manure, since there seems to be a market for horse manure in southeastern Wisconsin. (Just kidding) I do have the world's best organic compost. A little creative marketing and -- voila!

Is that correct? Where can I find that information that you blurt out with the authority of someone revealing a fact. I also can conclude you don't like affirmative action. And is it fair to assume, that a wrong should never be righted? Where on earth has this sudden burst of courage come from? Allen West and his 80 Communists he did not report to the Intelligence community or the Justice department. You can't get pregnant from rape, compliments of Akin Pain, There are members of the Islamic Brotherhood in the Government, Mrs, Bachmann. If she had proof why not hand it over to the FBI. Instead she tells it to the press, well there's a smart way to catch the bad guys, let them know you're on to them. Now we have a Texas Judge proclaiming a forth coming civil war. Where in God's name are these crazies coming from. Who let the nuts out?

We have no evidence that BO was even a C student. Where are his college records? Under lock and key, for fear we might learn something important that would doom his reelection.

Are you talking about how your side treated Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, Allen West and Sarah Palin?

Respect is something that is EARNED, it is not given to people who are undeserving. If the first lady would have came to the Sikh Temple and left, her true intentions would have been clear. Using the suffering as a photo op is disrespectful in and of itself.
Kharma is a Biatch.

First of all I don't understand your handle. Anti Alinsky. I don't get it. How is being anti Alinsky relevant to anything pertinent? If you had attended any early Teahadist Perty gatherings, you would have been as surprised as I was when I saw "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alinsky for sale at the TP gathering. When I inquired why, they told me it was a big influence and help in organizing the TP. So I don't understand what you name means. And have you rad the book? By the way, he was not a Socialists. They Socialist Party hated him, and the feeling was mutual. I never quite understood the reason his name was connected to Obama's and, if it was okay for the TP why was it wrong for Obama.

Alinsky was grudgingly admired by conservative hero William F. Buckley Jr., who called him "very close to being an organizational genius." Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, a Republican, gives copies of Mr. Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals" to tea-party leaders.

What the hell in God's name does that mean? Childish sounding, at best.

William, Saul Alinsky WAS an organizational genius who knew how to make an impact politically. In fact, some of his rules make sense even in the rational (non-radical) world.

I chose the alias "Anti-Alinsky" because I believe that facts, not rhetoric, innuendo and lies should fuel a debate. Saul Alinsky had no qualm with lies as long as his position won out.

@William Eib, what is a Teahadist Perty?

Why so Negative. 2500 people took the time out of their day to go see The First Lady and seemed to have had a good time doing so. So , why drop a negative bomb on those people? What have they done to you that makes you so pissed of at your fellow Americans. Or is this a personal thing you can't deal with? Negative, Negative, Negative. Is that all you got?

@William Eib, why are you only pointing out the supposed hateful/negative comments by the right leaning bloggers. Why not the left leaning bloggers? Is it because you hate the right?

"Sarah Palin resigned from political office, after being defeated by all of America as VP candidate in 2008."

Sarah Palin left office because the Democrats filed 18 unsubstantiated ethics charges against her and it was costing her a fortune.

Anti_Alinsky - Many of the ethics charges against Palin were filed by fellow Republicans.

Dirk, how many? Or more specifically, which ones?

Regardless, the fact is Sarah Palin was not driven out of office because she lost the VP bid as you implied.

I count six ethics violations by just Andree McLeod, a fellow Republican, who was once a Palin ally. In fact, she was integral to Palin’s effort to oust state Republican party chairman Randy Ruedrich from Alaska’s Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in 2003 after it emerged that he had used his state email account for political purposes. There were other charges, particularly Troopergate, that came from Alaska Government bodies. My point was Palin resigned after she could not jump ship ifrom Alaska into the Vice Pres. spot , when McCain and she lost the Pres. election by U.S. voters.
She had created such a mess in Alaska for herself as Governor, and also she wanted to cash in on her fleeting fame.

Believe whatever you want Dirk, but answer this:

How many of those ethics violation charges stuck?

"I personally have no problem at all telling these misfits exactly what I think of them."

I don't doubt that. Problems with impulse control are one symptom of brain damage.

What's not to like. Well, just about everything. It would be likeable in a comical kind of way, if the attempt at humor wasn't so lame. It's like a big pajama party. Braiding each others hair as you toss around the latest insult aimed at The President of the United State of America and his wife.. Oh, did you see that dress Michele "Big Butt" Obama had on today. And her husband uses teleprompters. LOL, ha ha ha, tee hee. That's how it comes off to a grown up reading this silliness. 3 and a half years of your lives spent on trying to destroy another human being. Real good way to waste your time.
Three and a Half years of nothing of any consequence that is relevant to the jobless situation. What is left of the GOP has also wasted the same 3 and a half years doing nothing, but trying to over throw the POTUS, rather than passing a jobs bill. Well, if that what floats your boat. What a way to contribute to the situation. 3 and a half of years of total obsession. And the sad part is, you had no choice. It was decide for you.

Dirk:
It has long been known from your remarks on Patch that You are on something. You are so disillusioned that some drugs must be involved. Are you abusing your meds again?

Uncle D - I am indeed disillusioned by the hate here, it bodes poorly for our country ever getting together again.

@ Dirk Gutzmiller commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd in Milwaukee, which you are following.
"Uncle D - I would find your comments hyperbolic and, at the same time, uninformed., such as "Obama's destruction of this country's economy purely for the sake of partisanship". However, I believe they are just plain totally wrong. The Republican leadership of the House has admitted to not supporting anything Obama tries to do. Now that is destructive. And, as I recall, the eight year Bush reign ended with teetering on an economic collapse of the world economy until the U.S. Government intervened. It is your apparent support of Romney/Ryan and the Wall Street fat cats they kowtow to that are the greatest danger to your children. It happened, and it can easily repeat.."
Bernie replies;
Excellent observation. Intervention of government to maintain liquidity of commerce was to increase mobility and expansion of the Middle Class. Marriner Eccles convinced F.D.R. that deficit spending not debt reduction was essential to overcome the depression. Middle class is the engine that drives our nation. Consumers and productivity are mastered by the middle class and not hording wealth to a few. F.D.R. reluctantly agreed and 13 years later the depression ended.
At that time 43% of nations wealth was being horded by the 1%. Presently we are at 40% of the 1.2% are hording the wealth. Not a comfortable margin for the nation’s health.

The Teahadist Party sold out. They joined a club they hated. Instead of staying out of the business of Politics and agitated from the outside for change. They instead, jumped into bed with the Right Wing and the GOP and instantly lost all of their credibility. They are sending people to congress who join with the GOP to obstruct business. They hate the words negotiate and compromise. Imagine how few automobiles and houses would be sold if the two sides did not compromise on a price.
My way or the highway is not a way to get anything done, evidenced by how little has been done concerning joblessness. The GOP and The Teahadists have wasted 3 plus years concentrating on overthrowing a Presidency, while Rome burned all around them. That myopic objective achieved little if anything for the people of this Country.

The Teahadist Party, once known as the Tea Party, were an intriguing group they stirred up a nice grass roots following. But for some reason they decided to join the club they disliked, Congress. They also morphed into an astro turf party with the acceptance of Dick Armey and the Koch Brothers money. That was the beginning of the end of their credibility. They hopped in bed with the GOP and the Right Wing and tossed their independence out the window. Now they are just a third leg on the table they wanted to topple. The boys and girls they have sent to Congress are not going to want to leave. They will need money to stay, so will start selling themselves to the highest bidders for the campaign cash. One scenario I see possible is the creation of a 3rd Party. Not the Teahadists though, it will be the GOP as soon as they can get their balls back from the TP. Yes a 3rd Party the GOP. What choice do they have? they have abdicated their power to, or allowed it taken away by, the TP. John Boehner can't get crap done with them. Eric Cantor is a back stabber. So 3rd Party status is the future for the fading GOP. It's a real shame, they were once a great political party. History will miss them.

Tim - For not hating anyone, you sure spout venom. You are appearing self-delusional.

Nice Tim. Insults. Right out of Uncles Rush and Bill O's 1001 insults when stumped by a Liberal.
The strongest weapons are facts. But to qualify what a fact is, it has to have verifiable support for its credibility. So if you are tired of the so called, morons why not try showing some info with meat on its bones, instead of Slogans. Slogans are for selling products. Facts are not products, they are the basis of understanding. So try it, you will see an uplift in the tone of the debate. Thank You , and Jesus loves you.

Even slaves looked down on the lifestyles of the impoverished whites of the South. This white underclass had the great advantage of being white during those times, but just could not get it together and work their way out of poverty. Their only achievement was white parents, and their only pride was not being black,Jewish or even Catholic. The KKK and Tea Party fulfill these yearnings for something, anything, even race, to feel superior to, and, today, including asserting superiority to progressive thinkers and commenters. Sadly, they fail abysmally at asserting any superiority whatever, as can be seen from their comments..

Daniel, this isn't the place for a substantive discussion of the issues. This is a place for tools like AWD, Tim, Craig and Alfred to show us their lack of an upbringing by slandering the First Lady of the United States, thereby bringing dishonor to themselves, their families and their race.

Crock 'o _ _ _ _: This isn't a place for discussion of the issues? You're obviously thinking crystal clear. When the issue is not supportive of your views, you change the subject. You do not want to discuss issues like spending 40% more than what Uncle Sam takes from us. Spending so bad that our debt has topped our GDP. Slandering the First Lady? Seriously, your crock name fits you well. Like I said before: Respect is something that is EARNED. You have not earned any respect by electing BO, he has not earned any based on the last 3 1/2 years.
It would be gernerous of anyone to call you a TOOL. Tools are useful. You are not.

Craig, I'm happy to talk about the issues, but you and a couple of other racist idiots have filled this particular forum with bigotry and slander. So, I'll go with the flow, and save the real argumentation for the adults.

Incidentally, you are totally disgusting. Your comments about Michelle Obama are among the worst things I've read on Patch. I'm calling you on it, because I don't want any readers to think that all white men are as ignorant, insecure and pathetic as you are.

Don't pretend you know what race I am. If you think the idea that respect is something that is earned is racist, then you are the idiot.
I know more about my people being oppressed than you ever will. If you think a Government that continues oppression by catering to the underpriveleged is a good thing, then you are being racist.
Teach a man to fish and he eats forever, give him a fish and he eats for a day.

Craig, there's no doubt in my mind that you're a racist. You seem to think I'm talking about your "respect is something that is earned" comment, or some nonsense like that, so let me clarify: you are disgusting because you are posting commentary about the First Lady's pubic hair.

Your parents really failed at teaching you how to act. You can blame your problems on the government, or on liberals, but they're a reflection of the fact that you're just an a--hole.

Crock: Actually, if you were educated enough to read my comment, it was a slam against your twin Tammy. The other comment was in reply.
I could say I feel the same way about you, but that would be being overly kind.
I have relatives who were slaves, and when they were too weak to work efficiently, they were killed. Don't pretend you are the great humanitarian: You are clueless, and I can't fix your problem.

I'm sorry, Craig - did you or did you not post "Baldwin had to be pried off Michelle's carpet" ? Did you or did you not post "that was clearly a shot at Baldwin though I could have commented on the nap of the carpet" ?

You did. If you aren't proud of it, then delete your comments. Don't try to disown them, like a coward, when they're right here on the page.

And now, you're moaning that I shouldn't be rubbing your nose in your own bigotry because a sad story in your family history lets you off the hook? Come on. Boo hoo, now take responsibility for yourself.

Craig - I want to hear more details about your slave relatives being killed because they had grown weak. Were they killed by denying them medical care, or simply by firearms?

Dirk Gutzmiller commented It happened, and it can easily repeat.."

Bernie replies;
Your comment is totally naïve. Remember 11 years ago; Busch in his Union speech proclaimed that in 10 years there would be a $ 5.6 Trillion surplus! Tad off there. More like deficit to debt would be more accurate. His statement follows the footsteps of that Herbert Hoover and Calvin Coolidge.
Instead of staying on the economic trajectory that Bill Clinton had established he veered in the opposite direction. 2002 Dow loses 29% of its value, S&P 500 and Nasdaq, from peak to trough dropped 31% and 55.3 %.
Bush took office when stock market was at 10,587 at the end of his term as president Dow stood at 7,949! Bush was second to Hoover on residing over a negative return on financial markets. Second to Hoover on Industrial drop in production. Income gap increased by 1% per year!
Return on all investments in the eight years Bush held office was negative.
Presently Obama has stopped the decline and slowly turning it around. Industrial out puts are up. Financing are up and stock market are up floating around 13,000. Corporate profits are up. Unemployment is down from the 750,000 per month of new filings for unemployment. That required 4,3 million jobs to be created which both Bush’s combined produce only 3 million jobs. That’s 12 years of Bush’s versus 3 years of Obama.
You should go do some actual research and end this juvenile rhetoric.

The reason yu have to ask is; you have spent the last 3 plus yeras, with the aid of the Blame Stream Media (FOX, Rush, Beck, Etc) trying to destroy the guy by digging up BS on him, rather than demanding the GOP in the House propose a jobs bill WITHOUT a tax cut for the Wealthy. But instead you found beating down the President of the United States of America a more rewarding way to spend your time. If this was not your sole investment in the political debate, you would not have to ask such a question. First of all you ask a question, then provide a broad inaccuracy as your proof, the slipping economy. Economists agree it is not recovering fast enough, but why is it solely the Presidents job? The Congress is responsible for legislation. The GOP has not placed one jobs bill on the table. They don;t agree with the majority of the Economists that the Government has to put money into the economy. This deficit is not going to be fixed solely on cuts, there is nothing to cut that will solve the problem, particularly when you want to reduce revenues at the same time. That thinking is madness. Look at your own life. Quit your job, and then try living by cutting your expenses to cover the loss of income. Impossible. Why do they keep insisting supply side will work? It is a proven failed economic philosophy. How does making wealthy people wealthier work out for us in the under class?

Dirk: As slaves they were not earning their keep because they had grown too weak to work on short rations, there was no medical care. They were disposed of because of this; shot in the back of the head.
Ms. Crockopile isn't worth replies anymore.

@Craig - The Abolishionists were the left wing of the slave days. They were trying to save slaves like your relatives from their harsh masters. So why are you so extremely right-wing? Some slavemaster heritage also?

Dirk: I would be a Heitz 57 varieties if I were Catsup, so yeah- I am blended to say the least. Honestly I have not been really Right wing until the past few years. The whole recall Walker thing made me a staunch GOP. I saw it as an attempt to punish someone for trying to fix our problems, and do we have problems that need fixing. National, State, and Local levels of Government in my mind are failing us badly. Is voting a straight party line the answer? I doubt it is, but I haven't noticed anyone with a D next to their name that is willing to try something different.

Uncle D - I would find your comments hyperbolic and, at the same time, uninformed., such as "Obama's destruction of this country's economy purely for the sake of partisanship". However, I believe they are just plain totally wrong. The Republican leadership of the House has admitted to not supporting anything Obama tries to do. Now that is destructive. And, as I recall, the eight year Bush reign ended with teetering on an economic collapse of the world economy until the U.S. Government intervened. It is your apparent support of Romney/Ryan and the Wall Street fat cats they kowtow to that are the greatest danger to your children. It happened, and it can easily repeat..

Please do not confuse democrat crap versus satire. they do not deserve that as a designation.

First Lady Michelle Obama attended a reception at Buckingham Palace for Heads of State and Government attending the Olympics Opening Ceremony at Buckingham Palace That was definitely a dress-up occasion, but $6800 retail is indeed pricey.
Snooty rich style watchers lambasted her choice of a simple cardigan, blouse, and skirt three years ago when she met England’s queen, calling the ensemble unfit for her first official visit with British royalty. And of course, we cannot forget Sarah Palin's $150,000 wardrobe courtesy of the Republican National Committee.

Who does Michelle think she is equal to anyway?

There you go Tom, being vulgar and hateful, just like we said.

Wow. Major catty. Meooooowww! Now the right is revealing their wealth envy. My My.
The woman wears J Crew, Boo. She buys designer clothes, Boo. She shows her guns, Boo. If she dress according to your dress code it would receive a Boo as well. She s**t out of luck with you folks. Short of dropping dead there is nothing you approve of when it comes to her. So why not just get it over with and say you don't like her and save yourself the time it takes to think up a zinger. Or make up some lie about her. Where may I ask did you get the prices of her wardrobe. Betcha can't tell me? Be my house on it. Jealousy is not a good generator of criticism, it clouds the issue.

The first family pays for their own expenditures. Travel is expensive for the first family they are under constant security. Every first family gets that treatment. Here's something you may not have known:

At the end of each month, the president receives a bill for his food and incidental expenses. Nancy Reagan was famously taken aback by this practice when an usher presented her first bill in 1981, saying, "Nobody ever told us the president and his wife are charged for every meal, as well as incidentals like dry cleaning, toothpaste, and other toiletries." (Once they got used to the bills, though, the Reagans loved the White House; President Reagan often joked that all the amenities made it like living in an eight-star hotel.) Clothes too.

.The United States is information hungry................on Barack Obama and the left wing media is going whack-o because the President is now being exposed for what he is................a Marxist. The documentary 2016 is breaking all attendance records:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/08/25/Box-Office-Aug-25-2012

Why so negative? So angry? So hateful? Just curious.

Mau: I don't hate anyone. I hate distortions and innuendo. And personal attacks on people. I try to keep my negative comments for the positions of the Right Wing, not the people who agree with their ideology. People have a right to an opinion, I don't like the process of creating opinion for political gain by exploiting peoples emotional view points is right, either from the Left or Right. I don't like broad stroke comments, like "the worst President in US history," you can say it if you want, but what justifies it, where is the evidence that supports such a broad remark. That would be like me saying; "Mitt Romney is the Worst Mormon in the History of the LDS." With out some substantiation, that is just a biased statement based on a dislike of the man. I don't know where he stand as a member of the Mormon Church, and I don't dislike him (I don't know him personally) so I would never say that. Although if I had some substantive evidence to prove he was a bad Mormon, them I would point it out , but I would include my evidence with the remark. That's why I don't make broad undocumented statements. I hate them, as a matter of fact.

And this revelation is relevant to the Jobless situation in America, how? 3 plus years of beating down on this guy and nothing sticks. Why is that. Any chance it is all BS.
You have the Blame Stream Media (FOX, Rush, Beck, Hannity, Etc) and the Right Wing propaganda machine, for 3 plus years, haranguing the POTUS, and not one thing stuck. It got so bad they had to create the Obama they talk about, because there was no real one. They had to make one up to sell to you. A Muslim, Socialist, Anti-American, Religion hating, bi sexual, fake tweets, constitution stomping, racist, money spending Negro. An Obama recognized only by people like yourself, and you have spent 3 plus years trying to get people to agree with this phony baloney Obama you made up to make yourself feel good about somethng, because obviously life has been nothing but shit for you. Sorry, Ducky. Unhappiness is not a good engine of truth.

AG. You have a point to make. I have read your comment a few times. I still don't get the point. None of it makes sense. You're just throwing our slogans as fact. I don't understand the hate for Unions. Could you clarify the basis for your contempt for people having a unified voice. It created the Middle Class. And a great deal more. How have you allowed yourself to be talked in to this hate for Unions. Some hing about paid off, doesn't make any sense. Taxes from ordinary people. No sense. Brainwashed kids. What does that mean? And how do you know that?

You make a fair point. It leads me to this question, if you are aware of this behavior not being a good thing then why perpetuate it. If I sin and you call me out on it, does that justify your sin? That's what your telling me. My recognized bad behavior gives you license to behave the same way. That's cockeyed thinking and a tad hypocritical.

I've never made remarks about Nancy Reagan's pubic hair, not George Bush's either. There's criticism, and there's tasteless slurs.

Moochelle Obama has an ass like a bag of quarters

I really hope you're not throwing stones from a glass house when it comes to your own posterior, madge.

Other than that, do you have anything intelligent to add?

Mau: All I asked was why you would perpetuate something you dislike. I just looked at my reply. I don't see anything that approves the lefts tactics. As you will see. I have included my prior reply as support for my contention. I suggested you were correct in saying the Left did it, which was wrong of them to do, I just commented on why you would perpetuate something you dislike.
You make a fair point. It leads me to this question, if you are aware of this behavior not being a good thing then why perpetuate it. If I sin and you call me out on it, does that justify your sin? That's what your telling me. My recognized bad behavior gives you license to behave the same way. That's cockeyed thinking and a tad hypocritical.

Where in there do I say the Left's language is acceptable? I agreed with you 100% that the left was guilty of being negative about Bush. All I am asking if you find the Lefts behavior disagreeable towards Bush, why repeat it against Obama. I am just curious. I am not trying to trick you. Just making an innocent observation. I think the whole attacking each other has done nothing to advance the Country. We probably share a lot in common, possibly music, food, movies. It doesn't mean we have to decide on whether we are good or bad people because we do not share the same Political beliefs. It is getting all of us nowhere. That's my comment in a nut shell. Hope I cleared that up for you.

Mau: I think I made a mistake agreeing with you regarding the hate from the left towards the right is not a good thing. It appears I have upset you by agreeing with you that your observation that the Left was brutal to Bush was no a good thing to have done. I am just innocently trying to find out why you would do somethng that you have determined is not a fair thing to do. Yes negative things are said about Romney and Ryan. So again if that is not something you like, why would you do the same thing towards Obama? It's that simple a question. Nothing complicated. Sorry I asked in the first place. Forgive me for stepping over what ever line I stepped over. My intention wasn't to upset you, I just asked a question I obviously should not have asked. Accept my apology, please. I will not comment again regarding Messrs Romney or Ryan. I disagree with them, but that's that. God Bless.

A Teahadist Perty is a typo of a smug version I use for the Tea Party. I have a problem with them, because I was a early advocate of their enthusiasm. I did not like the idea of them joining a club (Congress) which they hated. And they lost their independence by joining with the GOP and the GOP agenda. The people they are electing to Congress will get to like it there and they will need money to stay there, they will accept Lobbyists money and work for the interest of the Lobbyist's money, as the GOPers & DEMs do. I had high hopes the Tea Party would be different. They were fans of Saul Alinsky's book; "Rules for Radicals." They used the book to organize the Tea Party's beginnings. I wanted them to stay out of politics and be agitators of the entire system not just the Left. So in my disappointment I have come to call them in a smug manner The Teahadist Party.

Alinsky was admired by conservative hero William F. Buckley Jr., who called him "very close to being an organizational genius." Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, a Republican, gives copies of Mr. Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals" to tea-party leaders.

Barnard: Good link information. Read page two of your second link...
By no means did Obama try to reverse that spending. Indeed, his budget proposals called for even more spending in subsequent years. But the Congress (mostly Republicans but many Democrats, too) stopped him.
The problem is: Our debt continues to grow despite low interest rates. If we had rates more in line with our history- we would be going down with the ship. With the economy on the tank, spending the same or slightly more is more detrimental. So, I am not a lost soul. But you are turning red?

@ William Eib also commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd in Milwaukee.
"Mau: I don't hate anyone. I hate distortions and innuendo. And personal attacks on people.
That's why I don't make broad undocumented statements. ."

Bernie replies to your previous post;

“ Should any political party attempt to abolish Social Security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you should not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things… Their number is negligible, and they are stupid.” Dwight D. Eisenhower

As we travel down the road. Some will fall into the gutter. Some to the left others to the right. At which point they will begin to throw rocks at those traveling on the road.
Gutter tripe seldom recognized as relevance. Produce no substance and incapable to comprehend their flawed facts. Seek council in the realms of the intellectuals. Just keep moving on nothing there, move on. So much reality that is superior to those that beckon you to their gutters. A couple of good books to read that I found enjoyable are; one, Bulls and Bears and the Ballot Box by Bob Dietrick another What Money Can’t Buy by Michael Sandel. Have many more if your interested Enjoy the comfort of education versus the gutters wallowing
in their existence.

@ Daniel S. also commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd in Milwaukee.
"@Bernard Forand "Bush was second to Hoover on residing over a negative return on financial markets." mine has done nothing but lose value since the middle of BO's first year in office. Today it is worth half of what it was when Bush left office."

Bernie replies;
I don’t know what you invested in. I read the Markets by their index’s. Observe the annual compound returns for the DOW, S&P500 and Nasdaq 17.2%, 25.3%, and 31.7% respectively in Obama’s first 3.3 years. Lets compare that with Ronald Reagan for the same indices and time period. Dow 6.86% , S&P 500 6.16% Nasdaq 7.02%
I remind you the G.W. Bush in his last 17months in office had stock market loss of 58%! Worse than any rolling 17 month period during the crash of the market in the great depression Presently Obama has recovered in the equity markets, making up most of the lost from Bush. Today we float around 13,000. Obama essentially provided a tourniquet to stop the spiraling bleeding and the downward trend. Last 12 months of Bush we suffered the lost of 4.43 million jobs. Not since the great depression has that occurred. By stopping the downward spiral of markets and increasing the equity markets by 105%. Provided the foundation to halt the spiraling jobs lost of 750,000 a month.
. I presume you’re a Bear. That would explain your losses. This is not a bear market as it was with Bush at 58% loss in 12

3 plus years on, under Obama; the market is doing well, the guys who caused the mess are succeeding. Corporate Profits are at near historical highs. I think we should reward them all with tax cuts, what do you say? And the general public is still stuck in 2008. You need a new investment counselor.

Bush II Fr: 2001 thru 2009 ($5.1 Trillion)
1.8 Trillion Tax Cuts
$853 Billion Iraq & Afghanistan
$480 Billion Other Taxes
$616 Billion Defense
$608 Billion Non Defense Discretionary
$293 Billion Entitlement Changes
$224 Billion TARP & HERA
$180 Billion Prescription Drug Bill
TOTAL: $5.1 Trillion

Obama: 2009 thru 2017 ($983 Billion)
$503 Billion Automatic Spending Cuts (reduction)
$271 Billion Cut in Defense Spending (reduction)
$123 Billion Health Care Cuts (reduction)
$51 Billion Non-Defense Discretionary Cuts (reduction)
$874 Billion American Reinvestment & Recovery Act
$620 Billion 2 year Extension of the Bush Tax Cuts
$324 Billion Mandatory Spending
$123 Billion Other Revenue
TOTAL $983 Billion

A confused debate goes on over; Obama's “spending binge,” GOP claim, or “federal spending is rising at slowest pace since Ike. The key is fiscal 2009. It rose by $535 billion. “ 2009 FY,” writes Market Watch’s Rex Nutting, “which GOP count as part Obama’s, began four months before Obama.” The federal FY runs, from Oct. to Sept. FY 2009 began in Oct. 2008. Nutting points out: if you attribute most of FY 2009 to Bush, adjusting for inflation, Obama's spending actually dropped by 0.1 percent. Politifact agreed: “Using raw dollars, Obama oversaw the lowest annual increases in spending of any president in 60 years.” they say: “Using inflation-adjusted dollars, Obama's is the second-lowest increase. He presided over a decrease.”

Billy, tax cuts are not spending. idiot.(reduction, my God)

Billy, yes 2009 was an anomaly, primarily due to TAPR and ARRA (an Obama initiative BTW)and I have been saying that all along. The point is for Barack Hussein Obama's first budget year, tax SPENDING did not return to the 2008 level. He cut some 61 billion from 2009 and called it a spending cut. A spending cut only compared to 2009.

I will keep going to the bottom line: we are spending 813 BILLION more in 2012 than we did in 2008, a net increase of 27.26%!!!

Saul: I am surprised that a self professed smart man like yourself, was not aware of two of the most prestigious economists in the USA.
Pedro Santa-Clara
Nova School of Business and Economics; National Bureau of Economic Research
(NBER); Centre for Economic Policy Research (CEPR)
Rossen I. Valkanov
University of California, San Diego (UCSD) - Rady School of Management

And as for an Obama-Walker co-appearance. I don't think the Koch Brothers or the RNC would have approved it.

I get it now Billy. I had no idea you were a conspiracy theorist.

@Billy Eib:
"Saul: I am surprised that a self professed smart man like yourself, was not aware of two of the most prestigious economists in the USA.
Pedro Santa-Clara
...
Rossen I. Valkanov..."

Hardy "prestigious". they may be talented individuals, but do a Google search on each. I got a total of about a dozen hits. My mother gets more than that.

Regardless, if you want to get your message across, it's appropriate to cite who your source is, not just a name but why they are being used as a source.

That is one of the reasons you both you and Bernie make very little sense in your posts. Both of you phony intellectuals need to learn to communicate effectively.

Actual, please don't. It's easier to debunk your nonsense when you are this intelligible.

Now try to respond to my statement: we are spending 813 BILLION more in 2012 than we did in 2008, a net increase of 27.26%!!!

@ The Anti-Alinsky
12:16 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012

YEAR ------ TOTAL SPENT ---% INCREASE
----------------(in millions)
2008 ..........2,982,544 .............9.30% (last year of Bush)
2009 ..........3,517,677 ...........17.94% (transition budget with TARP)
2010 ..........3,456,213 ............-1.75% (first Obama budget)
(still higher than 2008 by 15.88%)
2011 ..........3,603,061 .............4.25%
2012 ..........3,795,547 .............5.34% (estimate)
Bernie replies;
Anti, Anti; We are going to have to take you back to simple basics. We will start with one and see if can grasp that. You provide 1] 1 Bush result? He had eight. Some missing there. 2] you have 9.3% both the increase and the % are just numbers floating about without any correlation. Show me how you get that % by just using that one increase number? 3] increase’s are not additional unless you wish to derive the RATE of acceleration. V one to be added to V two then divided by {n} which in this case is two, to obtain RATE. 4] Your insufficient data on Bush prevents any ratio comparisons. 5] The -1.75 higher than 2008? Where are the equations and numbers to prove that. LOL Bush spent less than -1.75? If you try to imply that increase in spending =debt, you will find the with the numbers you have provided have no any collation to debt. Apples and oranges. Save us both some time and bring this to your math teacher at school, your kids teacher, to explain it to you.
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Page two bernie replies to Anti.
One more thing for you to straighten out. 6] Your using the increase in spending from 2008 t0 2009 as Obama’s . By subtracting you come up with 15.88% increase in spending. That 15.88% increase in spending is what Bush handed over to Obama! Note; within one year Obama reduced it to -1.75 %
Obama has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/

@ TosaGOP
11:22 am on Saturday, August 25, 2012
Billy, tax cuts are not spending. idiot.(reduction, my God)

True on not spending the rest is garbage. Reduction of bills, reduces deficit spending requirements…

The Anti-Alinsky
12:06 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012
Billy, yes 2009 was an anomaly, primarily due to TAPR and ARRA (an Obama initiative BTW)and I have been saying that all along. The point is for Barack Hussein Obama's first budget year, tax SPENDING did not return to the 2008 level. He cut some 61 billion from 2009 and called it a spending cut. A spending cut only compared to 2009.
I will keep going to the bottom line: we are spending 813 BILLION more in 2012 than we did in 2008, a net increase of 27.26%!!!

Bernie replies;
Put it in perspective.” IF” your math is correct which I sincerely doubt. Use your mathematical skills and what do you get from 2000 to 2008? I’m with William and the professional economics on this. Sorry old buddy but your math is not creditable.

I admire you efforts to educate. Problem is you're are attempting to teach a crowd that holds facts as about as high as a bag of Horse Manure in value. The Right Is an emotional based political world view. More suited to Slogans and Talking Points. If you notice most of the replies you receive are either insults or broad accusations re: Obama's existence. I.e.; "He is the worst president in the History of the USA." "He is the biggest spender to ever occupy the White House." Dare you challenge these proclamations, you get an insult in return. The Right Wing learned well from 1930s Europe. Facts and cogent information are boring. Emotions are the key. Scratch the under belly of the masses' emotions and you will find; anger, negativity, hate, contempt, pessimism and a general low self-esteem. These emotions are easily provoked with someone or something to blame. The Poor, Liberals, Women, Immigrants, the Negro in the White House, etc. Provide the incentive with a few well written slogans and talking points and it's all down hill from there. All you need to do is look at the comments re: The First Lady's wardrobe, butt, and excessive spending of the public's money. This is the payoff the Right Wing is looking for, and getting. Emotions are the driving force not facts and reality.

My last bowel movement has more IQ than both you and Bernie combined, go away while the adults try to fix your mess.

Yet another example of what passes for intelligent discussion among our commenters from the Right.

The problem is Bernie goes off babbling without transitioning.
1) "Pedro Santa Clara and Rossen Valkanov Concurred that the democrats fared better than the republicans by a wide margin." Better at what? Volleyball. How about setting the background for what you are talking about.

2)"Republicans Nest egg would have accumulated $224,375.
Democrates Nest Egg would have accumulated $ 3,912,210. "
Again, based on what. Are you just throwing random numbers around? How about providing a link to your data, or at least a source?

3) Who is Pedro Santa Clara and Rossen Valkanov, acouple of your drinking buddies?

@William Eib,

"I admire you efforts to educate. Problem is you're are attempting to teach a crowd that holds facts as about as high as a bag of Horse Manure in value. The Right Is an emotional based political world view. More suited to Slogans and Talking Points. If you notice most of the replies you receive are either insults or broad accusations re: Obama's existence. I.e.; "He is the worst president in the History of the USA." "He is the biggest spender to ever occupy the White House." Dare you challenge these proclamations, you get an insult in return. The Right Wing learned well from 1930s Europe. Facts and cogent information are boring. Emotions are the key. Scratch the under belly of the masses' emotions and you will find; anger, negativity, hate, contempt, pessimism and a general low self-esteem. These emotions are easily provoked with someone or something to blame. The Poor, Liberals, Women, Immigrants, the Negro in the White House, etc. Provide the incentive with a few well written slogans and talking points and it's all down hill from there. All you need to do is look at the comments re: The First Lady's wardrobe, butt, and excessive spending of the public's money. This is the payoff the Right Wing is looking for, and getting. Emotions are the driving force not facts and reality."

It was worth repeating and you are spot on!!!!!!!!!

@William Eib -- You're being unfair to horse manure. Manure has great value when you're trying to compost yard waste.

@dee50,

Odd comment since one of the primary goals of the Conservatives and TeaPartiers is for limited government. The Left thinks government can solve all it's problems and wants more government control. Which philosophy is closer to the Nazi's?

Since Bernilly and Billerny won't get it:
IT'S THE LEFT THAT IS CLOSER TO NAZISM!

Shut up Bernie, you are an idiot and don't know it.

Cronyism??? How about Solyndra??? Nope, sorry, Solyndra is on Main Street, USA!!

Two very short dumb answers to an in depth analysis. As usual, the right is out of bullets.

How can Romney stand up for Main Street when he is on all fours for Wall Street?

Problem is she never said she was not proud of being an American. Sorry, Ducky. Never said. Not true. Not nice to make things up about people that are false. I notice no quotes around your statement, as attribution to The First Lady of the United States of America. Tsk Tsk.

In 2008, she was quoted in a few speeches as saying that for the first time in her adult life she was proud to be an American. To me that says that untiol that time she was either not proud or indifferent. Either way, its an indictment of her character. She has a chip on her shoulder.

A recant would go something like, "For the first time in my life I am really proud to be an American." I never heard that.

I am not sure that parsing her comment to suit your needs, is fair. What if I believe Paul Ryan is an Atheist, and he should quit the Campaign. I base my belief on his own words. "Ayn Rand is one of the biggest influences in my Life." Ayn Rand, the avowed Atheist, Pro-Abortion ( she had an abortion) philosopher who is one of the biggest influences on Paul Ryan's world view. I could conclude, which is my right, he shares in her views after reading all of her books, which he has his staff read, especially the best titled book of them all: "The Virtue of Selfishness." His economic policies are right out of Rands philosophy of unfettered Capitalism and Corporatism. To her, God and Democracy were impediments to a successful America. If it is okay to deem Obama a Socialist because he read Saul Alinsky's book (Alinsky was not a Socialist, the Socialist Party of the USA hated him). I think I have been given license to conclude what I believe about Paul Ryan being a closeted Atheist and he should step down as VP Candidate. America does not need an Atheist in the VP position.

RE: "Does Chik Fil-A accept EBT cards as well???" Can you elaborate on this question please. What does it mean, and what is it's intent?

Also, Google any Presidents college records and tell me what you come up with.
I doubt very much you will completely read the following:
Getting into Harvard demands grades, and he was not accepted because of his race. And you don't get elected as president of the prestigious Harvard Law Revue with a "C" average. Membership in the Harvard Law Review is offered to select Harvard law students based on first-year grades and performance in a writing competition held at the end of the first year. The writing competition includes two components: an edit of an unpublished article and an analysis of a recent United States Supreme Court or Court of Appeals case. The writing competition submissions are graded blindly to assure anonymity. Editors are selected based on a combination of their first-year grades and their competition scores. Only 80 students got to be Editors the year Obama was the Revue's President. The president of the Harvard Law Review is elected by the editors. You have one of the most well educated and erudite Presidents in history and you use it against him. Damn. If he walked on water you would say he couldn't swim.

Actually lolo peeg, I think the best answer would have been
"I have never been PROUDER to be an American"

But, don't expect a clarification soon.

And this is illegal how Billy?
And what is your source? Harry Reid?

And this is illegal how Billy?
And what is your source? Harry Reid?

Not more than the IRS, just a tad more than you.

So Billy, if I go part time with my job I have reduced my spending?

That is the most convoluted reasoning yet. Even worse than Bernie's (although I could follow your line of "reasoning")

No wonder the Libs are losing the intellectual war!

Billy, Billy, Billy. Why did you feel the need to Google the numbers? I provided the link to the WHITE HOUSE website. In case you didn't follow the link, this is the "Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal Year 2013" written by the Office of Management and Budget.
You CAN NOT get a more reliable source than that! Period, End of Argument!

The data I used was from the table starting on page 21 of the report. I used the "Year" and "Total Outlays" data. I had to calculate the "% increase" but that's just simple math.

While debt to GDP can be an informative piece of data, the bottom line is the irresponsible spending. It's time to get responsible leadership in that can make the best use of tax revenues.

(once again, the source from the White House website)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf

Actually, that was the Left's Waterloo. The country chose to elect and individual that you tried to portray as an empty headed suit over a career politician.

I am happy, that's not my problem. The Right Wing and it's stooge party the GOP along with folks like yourself have spent 3 and a half years trying to bring this man down. With the aid of The Blame Stream Media (FOX, Rush, Beck, etc.) you have tried to bring this man down. Nothing worked, nothing stuck. If he walked on water, you would say he can't swim. I find it strange, what with the curable problems in America, the GOP and The Teahadist Party in the Congress, set out, following a now infamous meeting on Inauguration 2009 evening, to deliberately obstruct every piece of legislation Obama sent to the Congress. GOP and Teahadist leadership, lead by Newt Gingrich concocted a plan to deliberately obstruct the functions of Congress. Now, you have to remember there was and is a jobless problem. Did not matter to the GOP or Teahadists, they had to honor their pledge to overthrow a sitting President of the United State of America. even if the legislation benefited fellow Americans. That's what bothers me. If you check out the Alien & Sedition Act of 1798 were enacted to prevent such behavior. That is the obstruction of Congress' Business. The GOP and Teahadist Party are behaving in a seditious manner. Treason some would call it.

@ The Anti-Alinsky also commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd in Milwaukee.
Or go to Wikipedia and search for "United States federal budget" Section 6.3-Timing of Obama's irresponsible spending is driving us into a hole we may not be able to get out of!"
Bernie replies;
Ever hear my story of the truck? Well here it is;
2 Guys buy a truck to serve their business. Each have their own business. {A} uses the truck, with wear / tare and fuel added , 10% of the time. {B} uses it the other 90%. Now time to add up cost and who pays what. {A} says he owes 10% {B} disagrees. He claims that 85% is what {A} owes. For {B} at 15% is paying more in wealth than {A} is paying with his 10%. Now if{A} don’t pay, {B} will SHUTDOWN the truck. The rest I’ll leave for you to figure it out. Now if you decide that {A} should pay the 85% then contact me immediately. Baby do I have a deal for you.
Brian Dey I saw him first. I’ll even let him pay 90% just to show how generous I am.
Obama has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/ LOL Wikipedia! And now I know why your so messed up with your opinionated facts . My source won a Nobel Prize award for accuracy. Your source is discredited by the educational institutes due to their lack of accuracy. LOL -U-R-so funny..

Billy, what exactly has the right done "to bring this man down"? Have false ethics charges been filed (like the left did to Sarah Palin)? Has an impeachment proceeding been started? What exactly do you mean by "bring this man down"? If you are talking about defeating the Socialist based health care plan, or fighting his outrageous spending, or tried to stop him from raising taxes on the rich, that's a fight against "the man's" agenda, not him.

What plan to "overthrow a sitting President of the United State of America"? Oh yeah, I forgot, you are a conspiracy theorist. Is it the vast right-wing conspiracy that is responsible for it?

And finally, the Sedition Act (which would apply to your example) expired 211 years ago, and would probably be found unconstitutional today.

As far as being your being happy, ignorance is bliss!

@Bernie:

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That makes no more sense than the other ten times you used it!

As far as using Wikipedia as an example, read the entire post. It was to illustrate to Billy that there is more than one source on the internet that disproves politifact's conclusion. Again, nice try on the spin, but you failed again.

Apparently Billy couldn't find a sandwich in a small brown paper bag!

Oh, and Bernie, I find Wikipedia to be a good starting point. I don't take what is on it as gospel since phony intellectuals like yourself can edit an article.

A good Wikipedia article will cite sources and provide some external links.
Unlike Bernie or Billy's posts!

@ The Anti-Alinsky
9:13 pm on Saturday, August 25, 2012
As I said Billy, I consider the OMB the most reliable source for that data. The only one

Bernie Replies;
Pedro Santa Clara and Rossen Valkanov Concurred that the democrats fared better than the republicans by a wide margin. Democrats had consistent above average returns. Most Republicans had lower than average returns and greater volatility.
Santa Clara and Valkanov attribute the difference in returns to the stock markets being systematically and positively surprised to discover that democratic polices in a 80 year time frame of quantifiable data, are the best economic stewards for the nation. Differences are substantial.
Democrats had a respectable average return of 9.6% as when compared to republicans 0.58% average returns. If an employee’s 401[K] plan was fully invested in stocks at a value of $100,000, at the beginning of the employee’s 40 years of labor, apply this to both parties for returns.
Republicans Nest egg would have accumulated $224,375.
Democrates Nest Egg would have accumulated $ 3,912,210.
Now at $5,000, initial nest egg investment.
Republicans Nest Egg would have accumulated $126,027.
Democrats Nest Egg would have accumulated $1,985,526.
‘The Presidential puzzle; Political Cycles and the stock market” Accessed December 14 2011 http://personal.anderson.ucla.edu/rossen.valkanov/Politics.pdf and the journal of finance, Vol.LVIII, no.5October 2003

Negro? Is that still a word? That word went out in the 70's along with hippies.

I think Billy and Bernie (Bernilly? Billerny?)are starting to merge into one being. The incoherent babbling has gotten worse, verifiable facts are not being cited (no change there) and now they have started throwing hissy fits.

You and your ilk made up this "war on women" and "99% crap" just to distract the bulk of the people from the real problem: the core of the economy is no better than it was four years and over 5 TRILLION dollars ago. And the other indisputable fact: Barack Hussein Obama is not the man to get this country working again.

And Billernie, it's not "Only the successful qualify to govern", it's that the most competent candidate should govern.

Alfred: Sorry you feel that way. Don't know you, so I can't make the same broad judgement of you as you have of me and the Bernie. It's a debate, an exchange of opinions.
Insults don't make for a continuing exchange. Sorry, Ducky. Recess is over. Ta Ta.

@ Christine McLaughlin also commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd .
Bernie Replies;
John Rawls once commented; Paraphrasing here;
I prefer converse with intellects. On their worst days they are superior than a pigs on their best day. I prefer the logic of Socrates, on his worst day than fools on their best day. As for the pigs and fools, I leave that up to the pigs and fools, to resolve. They are more knowledgeable in that area of expertise.

As we travel down the road. Some will fall into the gutter. Some to the left others to the right. At which point they will begin to throw rocks at those traveling on the road.
Gutter tripe seldom recognized as relevance. Produce no substance and incapable to comprehend their flawed facts. Seek council in the realms of the intellectuals. Just keep moving on nothing there, move on. So much reality that is superior to those that beckon you to their gutters. A couple of good books to read that I found enjoyable; one, Bulls and Bears and the Ballot Box by Bob Dietrick another What Money Can’t Buy by Michael Sandel. Have many more, if your interested Enjoy the comfort of education versus the gutters tripe’s, wallowing in their existence. Observe what they proclaim as leadership status. Pretty much says it all;
Mitt flip flopping on a multitude of issues. How much will it take to get him to dance to the Cronyism’s serene melodies? http://youtu.be/EQwrB1vu74c

The Republicans ploy is to give the impression there is no need for the Dems to go out and Vote, another form of Voter suppression!

Bernilly, do you have a link to that poll? Because this one I found on FOX NEWS has Romney/Ryan over Barack Hussein Obama/Joe Biden 45% to 44%.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/23/fox-news-poll-race-for-white-house-tightens/

I'm wondering if you can provide your source Bernie. Here's mine:

(once again from the OMD document on the White House website
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf )

From table 7.1 starting on page 139, the fifth column list Debt as percentage of GDP:
Year ---- Debt as % of GDP
2008 ---- 69.7
2009-----85.2
2010 ---- 94.2
2011 ---- 98.7
2012 ---- 104.8 (estimate, but right on track)

Oh wait, you and Billy don’t like government sources. How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt
United State Debt to GDP ration is listed at 102.94% to 104.1% (depending on whether you use CIA & Eurostat estimates or IMF)

Oh yeah, you ridiculed Wikepedia, How about a news source. Fox News put has Debt as a % of GDP passing 100% on August 8th: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/04/us-debt-reaches-100-percent-countrys-gdp/

Or maybe CNBC which placed it 99.46% on Mar 27th: http://www.cnbc.com/id/30308959/The_World_s_Biggest_Debtor_Nations?slide=2

Let’s face it Bernie, every source in the world has it around 100%.

So where’s your source?

And Bernie, if you would learn to read, the 15.88% increase is from 2008 (Bush's last year in office) to 2010 (Barack Hussein Obama's first full budget). Your point was spending decreased under Obama, but that would be true only if you accept that the bar was moved exceptionally high for 2009 due to TARP and ARRA.

Oh Bernie, keep posting the politifact conclusion and I will keep posting the facts

(once again from the same source on the White House website
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf )

YEAR ------ TOTAL SPENT ---% INCREASE
----------------(in millions)
2008 ..........2,982,544 .............9.30% (last year of Bush)
2009 ..........3,517,677 ...........17.94% (transition budget with TARP)
2010 ..........3,456,213 ............-1.75% (first Obama budget)
(still higher than 2008 by 15.88%)
2011 ..........3,603,061 .............4.25%
2012 ..........3,795,547 .............5.34% (estimate)

And the same question remains: How do you go from 2.982 TRILLION to 3.795 TRILLION (a 27% increase in four years) and still have "the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years"?!?!?!?!?!

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One more thing for you to straighten out. 6] Your using the increase in spending from 2008 t0 2009 as Obama’s . By subtracting you come up with 15.88% increase in spending. That 15.88% increase in spending is what Bush handed over to Obama!
Thus the 15.88% + 9.3%= 25.18% for Bush. For Obama subtract the 15.88% from the 17.94% = 2.06% Factor that in and we get 4.56% minus the estimate due to insufficient data and your math capabilities. Note; within one year Obama reduced it to -1.75 % and reduction to debt to GDP 5%+ in just two years in spite of all the sabotaging efforts of the right. You still have not provided the answer to what politifact discovered or Pedro’s take on all this. Your math is sparse on data and basis in its construct. Repost it all you want. It simply illuminates your lack of basic math. Which then removes your creditability on all math mathematical equations. Such as your estimate of 5.34%. That would require Standard deviation and probability equations that I know you do not have that ability.
Obama has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/

Well Bernie, since you like Politifact's conclusion so much, maybe you should read the followup provided from other news sources:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/25/lots-heat-and-some-light-obamas-spending/

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Now instead of constantly avoiding the questions I posed to you and my sources that you claim do not exist. Suggest you go back and reread my comments and their sources and answer the questions. You say that you figured out the [%] yourself, “simple math” did you tabulate your % from the rate of increase or just take the number you had before you and hit the {%} key on your calculator? Which increases probability of error. You do Know how to get the rate of increase right? If you do then how with just one Bush number you come up with a %? Means [average] of the rates would provide a % of increase more accurately. Bush has 8 numbers to establish rate % increase, which you do not provide, versus Obam’s 3 numbers% Data insufficient equations you are presenting are with errors and your interpretation of raw material. Presenting them as facts? Fox tactics?
Googled your numbers with no luck, No government agency records I found supported them. I found the following Debt to GDP
2005–2009 +20.7%
2009–2011 +15.4% = 5.3% reduction to the debt of GDP
Keep in mind as well the $5.6 trillon surpplus to deficit spending thatClinton handed over to Bush was immediatly tashed by Bush who then went on to run us into the ditch. He is second to Herbert Hoover for failed economics and national health. Presently republicans emulate Herbert Hoover in their pursuites for budgtatary spending and investing.

I'll bet my house you can not honestly say you read every word of Bernie's post. Now come on a little truth will make you feel good. Auntie Alinsky did read the whole post.
Why not follow Auntie Alinsky's example and find some info that challenges Bernie's case, rather than calling him names. Doesn't say a thing about what you know or don't know. Show Bernie the facts you imply you are aware of.

Bernie, the only source you have cited is politifact which came to it's conclusion using faulty logic. I have a challenge for you, cite your source where politifact is a "Nobel Prize Awarded site!"

Anti. Have already acknowledged site is a Pulitzer Prize site not Nobel. Facts remain as they are. If I were to bring you a site that says 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 and 1+2=3 and 1+3=4 and 1+1+1+1=4 and the site was from tin-buck-too.com would you refute it because the site is not approved by your narrow visions? To simply say, site has faulty logic is not an answer. That is a faulty logical reply. Prove the faulty logic first than say it. I Repost and repost it. For the fact it is undisputable correct. Which is why you can not dispute their findings and conclusions.
Which returns us back to basics with you. Where are all the numbers for BUSH Question #1 . Keep in mind they will have to reflect the debt to GDP in some ratio comparable to the numbers of the ratio of Obama’s debt to GDP. Otherwise numbers are invalid. Present source for validation.
By the way, you spiked the ball at the wrong field goal! Thanks for the points.
Obama has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/

Auntie Alinsky: Being right seems to be a big deal with you. But even when you are right you still can seem to enjoy it with out sticking the knife in a little deeper. My guess is this has nothing to do with Right or Wrong. There is something deeper a foot here.

Auntie Alinsky: You had the higher ground. You did your research you came back with a solid riposte. Links to your source. You should have been proud. But you just should let it go. Had to throw a zinger in there to insult Bernie. You turned victory in to defeat.

I may have spiked the ball in the end zone, but it's still a touchdown.

Anti. Have already acknowledged site is a Pulitzer Prize site not Nobel. Facts remain as they are. If I were to bring you a site that says 1+1=2 and 2+2=4 and 1+2=3 and 1+3=4 and 1+1+1+1=4 and the site was from tin-buck-too.com would you refute it because the site is not approved by your narrow visions? To simply say, site has faulty logic is not an answer. That is a faulty logical reply. Prove the faulty logic first than say it. I Repost and repost it. For the fact is undisputable correct. Which is why you can not dispute their findings and conclusions.
Which returns us back to basics with you. Where are all the numbers for BUSH [Question #1] . Keep in mind they will have to reflect the debt to GDP in some ratio comparable to the numbers of the ratio of Obama’s debt to GDP. Otherwise numbers are invalid. Present source for validation.
By the way, you spiked the ball at the wrong field goal! Thanks for the points.
Obama has had the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/23/facebook-posts/viral-facebook-post-says-barack-obama-has-lowest-s/
By the way William; Anti does not have the higher ground. Perhaps in his imagination but that is all.However he throws in the towell is fine with me.

Sigh...

( http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2013/assets/hist.pdf )

YEAR ------ TOTAL SPENT ---% INCREASE
----------------(in millions)
2008 ..........2,982,544 .............9.30% (last year of Bush)
2009 ..........3,517,677 ...........17.94% (transition budget with TARP)
2010 ..........3,456,213 ............-1.75% (first Obama budget)
(still higher than 2008 by 15.88%)
2011 ..........3,603,061 .............4.25%
2012 ..........3,795,547 .............5.34% (estimate)

So how do you go from 2.982 TRILLION to 3.795 TRILLION (a 27% increase in four years) and still have "the slowest growth in spending of any President in the past 60 years"?!?!?!?!?!

And the followups:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/may/25/lots-heat-and-some-light-obamas-spending/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-facts-about-the-growth-of-spending-under-obama-part-2/2012/05/30/gJQA3V4d2U_blog.html

Well thank you for the lesson in race relations, though I fear you set everyone back 30 or 40 years. It is obvious you have no friends of color because using either N word would get you a butt kicking even in a social setting.

Eib, What exactly are you on?

Holy Crap. Eib you just don't know when to call it quits, do you?

I didn't get that memo.
I am embarassed that I am out of the loop, but more upset with learning we as a human species have not improved.

Isn't that a little right wing?

And does Jesus talk to you often?

I think Eib has confused Jesus and Vince Lombardi....Go Packers....

Just the good ones.

Not everyone celebrates the Sabbath on Sunday. Some celebrate at sundown Friday...etc.
Jesus is the son of God, Vince Lombardi was a gift from God. What do you think that red phone is behind the Packers bench? It is a direct line to the Almighty.

I am sure you have a good moral compass. Your comment with the n words threw me to say the least. I have made comments that have been in poor taste, some with regret- but I too am a sinner.
When I was about 5 years old I heard the n word for the first time (or at least I inquired about it then). I asked my dad what it meant. He told me it "was a word to describe someone who was no damn good." He went on to explain there are white ones and black ones. Maybe those words are acceptable in the R&B world, but not in mine.
It may be acceptable for two Polish guys to call the other a Dumb Polock, but it is inappropriate for an Englishman to say the same. Get my point?

My comment was meant to illustrate how you tend to cubby hole everything. It is a general problem of the left. The right wing is more dynamic and open than you think.

Religion how did that pop up?
While on the subject of religion, you might find this interesting; Guess who was born on Dec.25th of a virgin [Isis] Mary under a star from the east with 3 kings a following. Became a teacher at age 12, Baptized/minister at the age 30. Had 12 disciples. Walked about performing miracles. Carried titles such as Lamb of God, The Shepherd, The truth, The light and so on.. Was crucified, dead for three days and was resurrected.. Hint 3,000 B.C. Right Egyptian God Horus. Or perhaps you might remember him as Attis of Greece 1200B.C. or perhaps Dionysus of Greece 500B.C, OR Mithra of Persia 1200 B.C. all of them carry the same M.O. Have about 20 more that fit the same M.O. of Jesus What a coincidence.. Aliens?? Ha, Ha, Nope much simpler explanation. Keep in mind they had no T.V.’s or Internet and yet they come up with the same M.O.’s. “IT is written in the stars” everyday and every year.
Have more on the MO’s of various saviors and their comparisons if you like. Evolution of ancient religions as it pertains to the symbols that have been passed down through the “AGES” Starting with the Zodiac…So much for the saviors as well as to their prophets.

Here is a thought. Difference betwixt an Atheist and a Believer is the Atheist has nothing to worry about the eternity. Where in as the Believers have so many complicated scenarios and various teachers of eternity on how they should conduct themselves, who they should belittle, what they must destroy, how much you must pay them for their services, be it money or your children.
Corruption ? Well look around and see for yourselves who is stirring our humanities into fits of righteous indignation. Resulting in suicide and wars for the abortions, of the young and old alike. Innocents to be slandered and or slaughtered, for the heroic righteous Believers.. Now observe the anger and hatred of those of you that advertise their Beliefs.!

Almost forgot this little tid bit. This is called evolution in 2 minutes;
http://youtu.be/MrqqD_Tsy4Q and I will not divulge the ending at this time.

William: I understand what you are saying, I just can't understand why we would go back to that word.
A few months back my Dr's office asked me for my race, they had a sheet with several choices...it pissed me off enough to ask why the human race was not one of the choices. Needless to say, it fell on deaf ears.
I find it funny there was no choice of Wop, Limey, or Kike on the list. (Please forgive me for using those words, but it points out how I feel about the n word)
Maybe I am too thinned skinned, idk. But if two italians want to use that term, fine. But I would not ever address someone as that, and never have I used any of those words.
I appreciate your explaination.

@Craig -- Euphemisms go in and out of style. They start out polite and morph into slurs. Then they come round again. "Black' used to be a rude slur back in the 1930s. "Colored' was polite, but now it's considered quaint enough to be condescending or rude. 'Negro' was quaint enough to be used for humor on SBL 10-20 years ago, but perhaps it's resurging.

'Wop', limey, and 'Kike' are all rude words for ethnicities or nationalities rather than races.

Randy: I still think it is condescending or rude to be used in general terms. I agree that close friends may use the term as a term of endearment, but that is with an understanding based on the relationship.
The other three terms ( which I regret putting in type ), was an attempt to show how vulgar a simple descriptive word can be.

@Craig -- Are we talking about the N-word that ends in 'r' or the one that ends in 'o'? The latter was never a slur. It's just a polite term that went out of style. By the way, I know people who get all bent out of shape over the term 'African-American' on the basis that some people living in Africa are extremely white.

How do we describe the differences in our skin color and the obvious effect it has in American society?

Randy: To me, the ending in o or r has the same defamatory connotation. 30 years ago the o ending was perceived as polite, but it still was improper to many.

How do we describe the differences in our skin color and the obvious effect it has in American society? Maybe the answer to this is: we don't. As families become more blended, it is getting harder to differentiate anyway. Olive colored skin is typical in many different nationalities. When we meet someone with Olive pigmentation, we do not ask what their nationality is, so why address the race? Is skin color really telling of race or Nationality? I think not. Personally, I would prefer to eliminate race labeling. I think racism is fed by media reports which describe a suspect as Black, Latino, White etc. Maybe the younger generation can deal with differences better than our generation. Maybe my issue is more related to my age and paradigms shifting against my personal opinion.

"I would prefer to eliminate race labeling"

So would I, but that can't happen until it no longer makes a difference to our prospects in life. And we all know that it does.

Your correct in that assumption, and I wold agree, but the Right Wing have found a way to make black sound racist. So, I have shifted to Negro, the Right Wing tends to steer clear of it, because of what you pointed out. It is close to the "N" word. Therefore, I use Negro when responding to Right Wing comments regarding anything related to the BS Welfare crap they spew. Or their inexplicable hatred for Obama.

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11]Sept. 17 Lehman Brothers declares bankruptcy. Merrill Lynch, on the edge of bankruptcy, is acquired by Bank of America. 12]Sept.17 Government bails out AIG for $85 billion 13] Hank Paulson demands a $700 billion bailout plan to banks. 14] Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs forced to convert to bank holding companies, allowing them to borrow directly from fed discount window. 15] Sept.26 Washington Mutual is seized for its failure. 16] Sept 29 Congress denies bailout funds. {$700 billion} 17] Wachovia on brink of collapse negotiates with Citigroup for take over. 18] Largest bailout in US history is approved. 19] Week of Oct. 6 to 10 DOW drops 2,031 points for record weekly lost of 19.67% 20] Obama elected Nov.4th . Economy shrinks in 3rd and 4th quarter of 2008 by 9%. The Greatest Recession since 1929.
Do you enjoy storms?

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Consider the middle class is the engine that powers our nation. They are the producers and consumers. Stall the engine or fail to maintain it will bring nation back to failed scenario. Hording of 40% our wealth by the 1.2% of our populace is not producing or consuming on the scale required to keep the engine running. That issue needs to be addressed. Republicans say we go back to the same policies that brought us into this mess to begin with. Romney would have no problem of outsourcing your job if there is profit for his entourage. His record is clear on that.
Mitt will Not show his IRS Tax information! Mitt does Not know where his monies are ! Mitt does NOT know how it is invested ! Mitt does Not know when he quit Bain ! Well Americans know what all these KNOTS add up to, and it is Not presidential material.
His party supports outsourcing.
Republican senators “stood firm with Mitt Romney and his 1 percent lobbyist friends” when they successfully filibustered the Bring Jobs Home Act [July 19 2012] says. The bill would cut taxes for U.S. companies that bring jobs and business operations back to the United States and end tax loopholes that reward companies that ship jobs overseas.
Now why would the republicans seek to keep favoring the 1.2% over our Main Street USA. Perhaps this professor, from MIT can explain better than I.
http://youtu.be/2Ux8Q3XC98U

Kg: How is it that someone can make a statement like yours, totally ignoring the Crash of 2008. Stock Market crashed. went down to 6000, currently under Obama is at 13000plus. And end of 2008, 750,000 jobs lost per month. Per Friggin month!! Nearly a million jobs a friggin month. Now we have had 30 months of job growth.

Also, I am suyre you are one of the folks who think the Obama's are spending your money on clothes, restaurants and vacations. If yu are, well that wouldn;t surprise me. Fact is the First Family pays for eveery thing in the white house, toothpaste, laundry, breakfast , lunch and dinner, and hotel expense for vacation and all out of packet costs. Bet you didn't know that.
The White House functions like a luxury hotel in this regard. At the end of each month, the president receives a bill for his food and incidental expenses. Nancy Reagan was famously taken aback by this practice when an usher presented her first bill in 1981, saying, “Nobody ever told us the president and his wife are charged for every meal, as well as incidentals like dry cleaning, toothpaste, and other toiletries.” (Once they got used to the bills, though, the Reagans loved the White House; President Reagan often joked that all the amenities made it like living in an eight-star hotel.)

@ William Eib also commented on First Lady Michelle Obama Fires Up Crowd in Milwaukee.
Whteman's disapointment:
Bernie replies;
Our American Melting Pot
Have we forgotten that in this democracy of the melting pot of the world, does not only illuminate the various immigrants that came to our shores. It is also the melting pot of a multitude of political philosophers from different regions of the world. We The People have incorporated various positions of these philosophers‘. Such as; Aristotle ,Immanuel Kant, John Stewart Mills, John Rawls, John Lock, Jeremy Bentham to name a few. Melting pot of various political ideologies’ as well. Utilitarianism, Libertinism, socialism, communism, liberalism, capitalism again to name a few. All of these ingredients are constantly being stirred about in our pot. Democracy is our abilities to consent to incorporate various ingredients, that We The People consider ideal. Picking and choosing only which parts we desire to remain in our pot and eliminating the dregs. So far this has risen in a short amount of time to be a world power. Liberalism and conservatism are the instruments we use as the tools to keep the pot at just the right flavor.
Presently the brew has attained a bitter cronyism taste. Would be prudent to remove some of those dregs once again. It is the moral imperative for the chef’s coinsurer’s taste for a well balanced Ala Democracy Soufflés’ .

@Nick

Do you have any clue that posturing is not the same as making an argument? You are like a barking dog. Woof, woof.

Well, looks like I have to explain something to the Great Auntie Alinsky. My list re: Obama was just the tip of the iceberg that the right wing has thrown at him. And may I point out, nothing stuck. How you missed my point surprises me, you come across as an intelligent guy. But this simple bit of sarcasm went right over your head. Hey Bernie you checking out the Great Auntie Alinsky got snookered by sarcasm. How did he put it? "BTW, your long list is a wild mix of fact, rumor, and crap you made-up with the intent of associating fact with fiction so we will think all of it is untrue."
No! I was being sarcastic. Not middle brow enough for you Auntie?

Re: Mr. Saul Alinsky. Something you obviously do not know. Your comment name is
like everything you write. Not well thought out.
Adam Brandon, spokesman for FreedomWorks, which has been organizing tea-party activists and includes Dick Armey as chairman, says the group gives Mr. Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to the top Tea Party leadership members.
When it comes to grass-roots organizing Alinsky's ideas are incredibly effective," Mr. Brandon said. He cited the group's sending of tea-party activists to town-hall meetings. "When the first five people step up to the microphone to challenge a congressman,'' he said, "it completely changes the dynamic of the town hall—he spends all of his time defending himself." Pure, Alinsky. The Tea Party is a Socialist Organization. Ain't that something!

Billy, even I have read the rules for radicals (not the entire book, but a synopsis). After all, how can I fight against the rules if I don't know what they are? The same thing with the Tea Party, how can they fight the lies and innuendo effectively if they don't know the strategy?

Take RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone."
Bernie has constantly referenced his favorite politifact article concerning Barack Hussein Obama having the lowest spending increases of any recent president. I called him on it several times citing data from an OMB report hosted on the Whitehouse website. As I mentioned several times, politifacts facts are correct, but their spin and conclusion are incorrect. I pulled Bernie out of his "expertise" (which as Hoffa has pointed out time and again just seems to be cutting and pasting randomly from Liberal rags). As a result, Bernie can only keep mumbling "politifact says, politifact says... and has to ignore the fact that we are spending 27% more today than four years ago.

And while you admit your list was sarcastic in nature and pulled out of the urban legend generator that is the blogosphere, my list was compiled from various Barack Hussein Obama accusations leveled at Mitt Romney!

Actually William, according to Barack Hussein Obama, I didn't do it, somebody else did that.

Ay yes...but how many of those tidbits were put out by the Romney camp?

Kind of shows you the differences in the candidates. Barack Hussein Obama is willing to feed into the conspiracy frenzy for votes.

BTW, your long list is a wild mix of fact, rumor, and crap you made-up with the intent of associating fact with fiction so we will think all of it is untrue. The relevant facts you list are:

He's a Socialist
He never worked in the private sector
He's trying to destroy America
He's an apologist for America
He's not qualified to be President
He bows to Foreign Dignitaries
He's taken credit for personally killing OBL
He's a friend of Bill Ayers
He's a community organizer
He's read Saul Alinsky's book (and practices it's teachings)
He uses a teleprompter
He doesn't put his hand over his heart during the National Anthem
He's from Chicago (that's enough right there)
He's got a radical pastor at his church
He's the Food Stamp President

But the two that really bother me tthe most:
He smoked Pot (let's face it, he was a pot-head)
He snorted Cocaine

And I'm not going to vote for him!